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Friday, January 27th 2012, 8:49am

Grunt, fire, delicacy, fidelity, soul.

The kinds of things missing in everything else I've used and which bring out the above in me and my playing.

It's a very serious box of magic for sure. Sometimes being a fanboi is entirely justified.


Great post!

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 9:00am

Yes I remember that too. And after every firmware update lol.
:D :D :D


As convincing as your feedback is, I still remember people saying similar things about the first Axefx.


That's very true. However, let me tell you a little story.
When the KPA was announced with pics etc. and talk about it on various forums I couldn't have cared less about that product. Especially after seeing pics of what I considered to be a strange looking green box. Plus the name "Kemper" I had never heard of.
I had almost every modeller known to man back then (my list of guitar processors goes as far back as a Zoom 2100 Player) and was pretty much fed up of all the huge promises some of the big companies made (*cough* Line *cough* 6 *cough*) but their product just wouldn't deliver. So to end my quest for an amp like tone and feel out of a digital box I got on the waiting list for the Axe2. Anyway time passed and still not even the slightliest interest in the KPA on my behalf.
Until I got a call from a forum member, who got a testing unit and told me to just drop by.
I went over and plugged my guitar into that thing and man - there it was. Every promise ever made by other companies was delivered by this very product. This thing breathes like an amp and feels like it - even through basic active studio monitors. I was sold!
The next day I ordered one of those green boxes which I couldn't be bothered with to even read about before and cancelled my Axe2 order (as there was no point in getting something else)... and here I am.

What is my point? We are surely not some type of overblown guys that try to push a semi-good product.
The product delivers in every aspect - that's why we are so excited about here! And the best thing - you get new profiles (and most of them are super usable to even excellent) almost every single day!
I'll take a bet that you will be just as in awe by the KPA as we all are...
USA Custom Guitars Strats -> KPA -> Alesis M1 Active MKII
www.myspace.com/schneidas

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www.usacustomguitars.com

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 11:42am

The product delivers in every aspect


not regarding reliability and customer support (yet). still too many bugs that should not have been there at all.

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 11:48am

not regarding reliability and customer support (yet). still too many bugs that should not have been there at all.
I meant in aspects of sound and feel plus ease of use.
As far as I am concearned, I have only good things to say about Kempers customer support so far.
USA Custom Guitars Strats -> KPA -> Alesis M1 Active MKII
www.myspace.com/schneidas

great guitar parts:
www.usacustomguitars.com

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 4:10pm

Thanks guys. Yeah, I'm not worried about bugs and missing elements right now. This thing is in it's infancy and all that stuff will likely get worked out in the reasonably new future.



The ONLY thing I care about and the only reason I'm buying one of these is to be able to nail the sound of a well-mic'd amp/cab for recording. Comparing model vs real side by side in Pro Tools is the only way I found to really determine if the AxefxII sounded every bit as good as the tube amp track. I'll be doing the same when I get the KPA. I don't care if it sounds slightly different as long as the magic is still there.



UPDATE: I ordered my KPA last night internationally. Hopefully it doesn't fall off the ship on it's way here.



I have a pretty good two channel set up for recording so hopefully, I'll be able to profile and share some high quality amp models. I'll be profiling with: Royer 101/Shure 57/Lawson L47 -Vintech X73 or Chandler TG2.



I'll have to play with it a bit, but I usually record with an Anamod ATS-1 at the end of that chain. I'll probably do some profiles with the Anamod in the chain so the tape saturation and compression is built into the preset. Of course, these will likely be more suited for recording.



Thanks for the feedback guys. If this thing turns out to be a joke, I'm going to find out where all you live, bring a horribly out of tune guitar to your front yard and play Stairway to freebird outside your windows at 4am. :P



happy friday,

steve

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 4:17pm

looking forward to hearing stairway...at 4am :D

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 4:18pm


Thanks for the feedback guys. If this thing turns out to be a joke, I'm going to find out where all you live, bring a horribly out of tune guitar to your front yard and play Stairway to freebird outside your windows at 4am. :P
:D :D :D
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www.myspace.com/schneidas

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www.usacustomguitars.com

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 4:22pm

If this thing turns out to be a joke, I'm going to find out where all you live, bring a horribly out of tune guitar to your front yard and play Stairway to freebird outside your windows at 4am. :P

..through a Line6 Spyder 1st gen... ;( ;(
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Friday, January 27th 2012, 4:57pm

Yes I remember that too. And after every firmware update lol.
:D :D :D


As convincing as your feedback is, I still remember people saying similar things about the first Axefx.


That's very true. However, let me tell you a little story.
When the KPA was announced with pics etc. and talk about it on various forums I couldn't have cared less about that product. Especially after seeing pics of what I considered to be a strange looking green box. Plus the name "Kemper" I had never heard of.
I had almost every modeller known to man back then (my list of guitar processors goes as far back as a Zoom 2100 Player) and was pretty much fed up of all the huge promises some of the big companies made (*cough* Line *cough* 6 *cough*) but their product just wouldn't deliver. So to end my quest for an amp like tone and feel out of a digital box I got on the waiting list for the Axe2. Anyway time passed and still not even the slightliest interest in the KPA on my behalf.
Until I got a call from a forum member, who got a testing unit and told me to just drop by.
I went over and plugged my guitar into that thing and man - there it was. Every promise ever made by other companies was delivered by this very product. This thing breathes like an amp and feels like it - even through basic active studio monitors. I was sold!
The next day I ordered one of those green boxes which I couldn't be bothered with to even read about before and cancelled my Axe2 order (as there was no point in getting something else)... and here I am.

What is my point? We are surely not some type of overblown guys that try to push a semi-good product.
The product delivers in every aspect - that's why we are so excited about here! And the best thing - you get new profiles (and most of them are super usable to even excellent) almost every single day!
I'll take a bet that you will be just as in awe by the KPA as we all are...


Can you talk about this in more detail? So do you KPA guys believe that the lines between a killer amp in front of your face and the KPA into FRFR (or studio monitors) has really been blurred? Or are you saying that a killer amp "recorded with a great mic/pre" and the KPA are now on equal footing? I'm getting varied feedback between here and other forums. There is a great comparison post on here and the end summation is that the KPA through K12(s) is amazing, "better than the live tube amp". While in other places, a guy is dumping his AxeFX II AND KPA because neither really captures the magic of his tube amps.
I'm actually quite comfortable with modelers and FRFR -- I do believe modeler + power amp / good cab is even more "realistic" but I'm not willing to give up the amazing variety and versatility that full blown amp modeling offers (ie. including the cab sim).
Thoughts?

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 5:05pm

Yes I remember that too. And after every firmware update lol.
:D :D :D


As convincing as your feedback is, I still remember people saying similar things about the first Axefx.


That's very true. However, let me tell you a little story.
When the KPA was announced with pics etc. and talk about it on various forums I couldn't have cared less about that product. Especially after seeing pics of what I considered to be a strange looking green box. Plus the name "Kemper" I had never heard of.
I had almost every modeller known to man back then (my list of guitar processors goes as far back as a Zoom 2100 Player) and was pretty much fed up of all the huge promises some of the big companies made (*cough* Line *cough* 6 *cough*) but their product just wouldn't deliver. So to end my quest for an amp like tone and feel out of a digital box I got on the waiting list for the Axe2. Anyway time passed and still not even the slightliest interest in the KPA on my behalf.
Until I got a call from a forum member, who got a testing unit and told me to just drop by.
I went over and plugged my guitar into that thing and man - there it was. Every promise ever made by other companies was delivered by this very product. This thing breathes like an amp and feels like it - even through basic active studio monitors. I was sold!
The next day I ordered one of those green boxes which I couldn't be bothered with to even read about before and cancelled my Axe2 order (as there was no point in getting something else)... and here I am.

What is my point? We are surely not some type of overblown guys that try to push a semi-good product.
The product delivers in every aspect - that's why we are so excited about here! And the best thing - you get new profiles (and most of them are super usable to even excellent) almost every single day!
I'll take a bet that you will be just as in awe by the KPA as we all are...


Can you talk about this in more detail? So do you KPA guys believe that the lines between a killer amp in front of your face and the KPA into FRFR (or studio monitors) has really been blurred? Or are you saying that a killer amp "recorded with a great mic/pre" and the KPA are now on equal footing? I'm getting varied feedback between here and other forums. There is a great comparison post on here and the end summation is that the KPA through K12(s) is amazing, "better than the live tube amp". While in other places, a guy is dumping his AxeFX II AND KPA because neither really captures the magic of his tube amps.
I'm actually quite comfortable with modelers and FRFR -- I do believe modeler + power amp / good cab is even more "realistic" but I'm not willing to give up the amazing variety and versatility that full blown amp modeling offers (ie. including the cab sim).
Thoughts?


Like Cliff said, most of the magic is in the cab "sim"...and CK captured the magic of a cab.

Listen to this, JonG.
He likes adding external reverb post recording because he likes the "live room" feel in his DI tone...but ignore the reverb and listen to the realism of the cab, and the dynamics of the distortion.
http://soundcloud.com/jonguk/kemper-blues-riffing#