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Wednesday, January 18th 2012, 5:33am

USB Audio & Reamping

One for Mr. Kemper - Will this ever be possible via firmware update, or would it require a change in hardware? TI's a pretty important feature for many. ;)

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Monday, January 23rd 2012, 5:31pm

yeah, I'd really like to know too. It's crucial in terms of evaluating the investment in KPA.

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Thursday, January 26th 2012, 4:29pm

Reamping is already possible!
Record your pure guitar by the Direct Output. It carries an analog copy of the Instrument Input, no ADDA conversion involved.
You can playback the guitar recording directly back into the Instrument Input or SPDIF in. Make the correct levels by the parameter Clean Sense and Distortion Sense in the Input menue.

We are planning an even more convenient way for reamping in a future software update.

USB audio is not planned, as this would require the KPA to be the sole audio interface for your DAW.
Remember: You can only use one audio interface on your daw without hassle.
And we assume that you all own a more appropriate audio interface. That is why we recomment to use SPDIF in combination with an audio interface.

Christoph Kemper

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Thursday, January 26th 2012, 11:23pm

Hi Christoph, thank-you very much for answering. OK, good to know that you can re-amp!

With regards SPDIF will you be updating this to allow other bitrates than 44.1k in the future?

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your analysis on USB audio. I hope you don't mind if I outline why I think this is so :

Firstly, even though this is clearly targeted at studios I'm willing to bet that the majority of users will be guitarists that don't already have expensive convertors. So for them it being the sole interface is bang on perfect, and a great selling point.

Secondly, if you do have an audio interface the Kemper is looking to take up quite a few inputs and outputs on it which you may not want to spare if you want to use it for more than pre or outboard, for instance to re-amp or profile. I'm just a normal guitarist though I do have a very nice interface with the Apogee Ensemble, and I'm wondering how I'm going to route the Kemper in there together with everything else already taking up all the other slots. Which leads to...

Third consideration is that it's much quicker to change the audio driver option from within your DAW or even computer control panel (which allows separate IO options) than to plug/unplug physical cables or even reroute using your standard interface software (Maestro in my case). In fact I use the USB directly on my Pod HD currently for this very reason.

Fourth factor is that it's just convenient. Sometimes I just want to quickly jot down an idea and in those instances I will often just use the USB IO on the Pod (and maybe headphones). It's also convenient for me of course because I spend a lot of my time using Bootcamp coding away in visual studio in Windows and suddenly I have an idea and it becomes too much hassle to reboot just to knock the idea out.

I do think it would be worth your while and I know of several guitarists who would dive right in but for this holding them back. Their argument is simply that the competition has it, of course the Virus TI had it (was it so very bad there?) and it's just one of those standard sort of "expected" features now. It's disheartening to see people you've pointed in the direction get all excited and then when they ask that you get the puppy dog face and mumbling.

So I'd very much like to request that it be added or at least reconsidered (even though I know it's a huge pain to write or license drivers, audio IO etc). I think it would help round out what looks to be a fantastic product and give it wider appeal, even though it's expensive it's the sort of thing that's so desirable that people who otherwise wouldn't be able to comfortably afford it are saving up for.

I really hope you don't mind me saying this and that what I've said hasn't come across too strongly or in any way offensively (it's just eagerness), I just wanted to outline a few good arguments for. :)

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Friday, January 27th 2012, 5:13pm

quite agree with Per on this one. USB recording is pretty much a must-have feature nowadays

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 4:06pm

I agree with Per as well, BUT I find it refreshing that Mr. Kemper has answered this question so I can make decisions going forward on an external audio/midi interface for recording. Thanks!

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 4:24pm

Christoph, could you consider this ? :

As the signal from S/PDIF is stereo and we often prefer recording dry tracks (so, no stereo effects -> mono track), perhaps it would be possible to let the processed signal (amp + cab) on the left channel of the S/PDIF and the dry signal of the guitar on the right channel. So, no conversion at all. It could be an option : stereo effects or dry guitar.

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 4:37pm

Christoph, could you consider this ? :

As the signal from S/PDIF is stereo and we often prefer recording dry tracks (so, no stereo effects -> mono track), perhaps it would be possible to let the processed signal (amp + cab) on the left channel of the S/PDIF and the dry signal of the guitar on the right channel. So, no conversion at all. It could be an option : stereo effects or dry guitar.
I already made this suggestion, it would be an excellent feature i love to see in the near future.

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Monday, January 30th 2012, 11:30pm

In this (German) video the same questions was asked and the answer was 'it's not planned - yet'.

I am sure the priorities are more to fix bugs and add missing features - and that's good IMHO.

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Friday, February 3rd 2012, 2:22am

Christoph, could you consider this ? :

As the signal from S/PDIF is stereo and we often prefer recording dry tracks (so, no stereo effects -> mono track), perhaps it would be possible to let the processed signal (amp + cab) on the left channel of the S/PDIF and the dry signal of the guitar on the right channel. So, no conversion at all. It could be an option : stereo effects or dry guitar.


Nice idea. I will consider that.

Christoph Kemper