Kemper Amps Forum

I don't quite get the poeple who are running away and canceling their pre-orders.

I'll be honest, I'd be lieing if I claimed the announcement didn't give me pause and make me reconsider going ahead with my Kemper purchase (at least briefly), but at the same time I'm not too green to know when I'm being played by marketing either and shouldn't just kneejerk react. It was obvious it would happen sooner or later anyway.

For now I'm going to continue and put my trust in Kemper with the hope that it'll be supported and a success, that it will sound as incredible as I've heard in the clips (and to me it does sound consistently better/more natural than the Axe), and will be improved further at a quick pace.

I like it's form factor because I like easy to use well designed physical user interfaces as much as software ones. I like that it's cheaper than the Axe. I like that as of tomorrow it'll be available to use rather than another "future" promise to wait for. I like how Access has handled support of the Virus and expect similar for the KPA. Mostly I like how it sounds better to my ears. None of that's changed. At the same time nor does any of that detract from the awesome features of the Axe, both units are incredible, it's just that on balance as things stand right now I still prefer the Kemper option and I'm still just as excited by it as I ever was.

Quoted from "hoss"

Quoted from "Guitartone"

To use "Vaporware" as a marketing tactic at the exact time that your competitors product is being released in the USA borders on pathetic.

+1
Some company leaders really are acting like the bully kid on the playground.

They dissed profiling in the past as well as they dissed USB and input impedance when 11 Rack came out. Features that the Axe FX II (not Axe FX 11!) then had.

Agree on this point...not really coming out well...

I think everyone should just relax and wait to hear what Fractal is doing - it could be great or it could be lackluster, but anything anyone says at this point is strictly guesswork. One thing Cliff is not is stupid, so let's just see what happens....there's really no need to 'take sides' - we're all just guitar players in search of a better sound after all...

Well I expected something like that.
Cliff has been shitting himself ever since the release of the KPA and the various reactions when the KPA was head to head with an Axe2.
A move like that was to be expected.

Great news, the more competition, the better sound will get (though I don't know how one could improve over the Kemper).
Let's see if Fractal's profiling can sound as good as Kempers, I doubt it - but we'll see.

When I still had the Axe2 I tried what Cliff suggested (mentioning the Axe will sound much better than the KPA in this case). Capture an IR of the KPAs Cab and use that with a Axe Amp Modell. I still prefered the KPA by far though.

Quoted from "mDan"

Great news, the more competition, the better sound will get (though I don't know how one could improve over the Kemper).
Let's see if Fractal's profiling can sound as good as Kempers, I doubt it - but we'll see.

When I still had the Axe2 I tried what Cliff suggested (mentioning the Axe will sound much better than the KPA in this case). Capture an IR of the KPAs Cab and use that with a Axe Amp Modell. I still prefered the KPA by far though.

That's the point they're completely missing, the KPA doesn't sound so good because it can Profile amps, it sounds so good because of how it interprets and what it does with the Profile when converting it into audio.

That's why a cat chases it's tail, because it thinks it can catch it.

Quoted from "Radley"

I think everyone should just relax and wait to hear what Fractal is doing - it could be great or it could be lackluster, but anything anyone says at this point is strictly guesswork. One thing Cliff is not is stupid, so let's just see what happens....there's really no need to 'take sides' - we're all just guitar players in search of a better sound after all...

This is like telling Roger Water's there was no reason to write "Us & Them"...there was a reason, that's why he wrote it.

"Up and Down
And in the end it's only round and round and round
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried".

Quoted from "JonG"

So the AXEFX guy couldn't come up with this concept on his own, he had to steal the idea from ckemper, but more than this he obviously doesn't know how it's done so he is just pushing out a big doubt in potential buyers minds so it buys him time to figure out how it's done.

This exactly!

lol, what's next, if Kemper incorporates a link between the Access Virus "Snow" module and the KPA will Fractal develop/copy the Virus 'Snow'...what will they call it, the Fractal Virus 'Snowfake'?