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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 10:43am

My Kemper vs. Axe- Fx II experience

I have owned the Ultra for years and the Axe II since Jan. 2012.
When my KPA arrived last week, I had the expectation that it might be in a similar league with the Axe II, only using a different, interesting new approach.

In my "real amp life" I'm mainly an AC 30 player. Also with modelers. I like to have options, of course, but tend to use one model 90% of the time.
Also with the Axe, i've used nearly exclusively the AC 30 TB model.

In the KPA I found a beautiful AC 30 profile recorded in a Nashville studio, captured with a nice blend of 2 microphones (forgot which ones cause I'm not at my machine now).
This profile has a nice grit to it and I can give the tone a character from super clean to fairly crunchy simply by changing my picking attack and with a little use of the volume pot.
I instantly fell in love with this profile, and I mean, REALLY fell in love.
Could play for hours and never stop.

What happened then I had not imagined. Turned on the Axe and loaded my best effort AC 30 patch (after years of tweaking experience), which I had always been quite content with.
Couldn't stand it now after playing the KPA. The highs sounded so unnatural to me and the mids had a honky character I couldn't dial out. No chance.

I was shocked. Stopped playing and started over after a few hours. This time I started with the Axe. Sounded good. Changed to the KPA. Sounded excellent, much better! Switched back to the Axe. Could not stand it AGAIN!
I really had not expected this.
Next I set up a blind listening test for my wife. She's very lovely but the first to admit to be not being very musical. :)
I randomly plugged in to the Axe or the KPA and played, being amplified by an Atomic FRFR.
Result: She picked the KPA from the Axe EVERY time, every time qualifying the KPA as clearly better sounding.
She is right. I really feel that profiling means a paradigm shift. Modeling as known to us maybe is past and history.

After the difference in sound quality was so evident with the Axe being so inferior i couldn't even imagine to use it again for amp tones. The effects? Sure they are somewhat limited in quantity in the KPA but the quality is very good and I found that I can get very musical results in very short time, actually it's quite more practical than using effects in the Axe.

My summary: I really didn't expect this to be such a clear outcome. I'm quite excited over the KPA (and I'm not getting excited so easily). I could have imagined to keep both the Axe and the KPA initially, but my Axe is already sold by now.
Behause the KPA is in a superior league. Amazing!

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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 10:49am

RE: My Kemper vs. Axe- Fx II experience



Modeling as known to us maybe is past and history.



Pretty much what I thought the day it began! :-) Of course technology marches onward so who knows what the future might bring but so far, for me, modelling leaves me cold.

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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 11:29am

Wow doc 8o , coming from you it has a certain weight..Happy that the Kemper is doing it for you! :thumbsup:
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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 11:35am

Hey Doc! (I always get a Marty McFly moment out of this :D )
Thanks for sharing your review!

Also: good choice in wifes! :thumbsup:
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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 11:41am

Wow doc 8o , coming from you it has a certain weight..:

Thanks! :)



Also: good choice in wifes! :thumbsup:


Irritated by your use of the plural ... :)

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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 11:44am

:D :D :D
Hope your Wife(s) are not reading this forum...do they know each other? :D :D :D
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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 11:49am




Also: good choice in wifes! :thumbsup:


Irritated by your use of the plural ... :)
Well, you know, many men have... nah... forget it! :D :D :D
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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 12:20pm

That's what happened to me too, quite a similar story. What I'm getting out with my Tele and Strat using Kemper & Marshal Golub profile is something that I never experienced with Axe Ultra or II.

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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 12:30pm

Oh my sentiments EXACTLY! I've spent years trying to enjoy the AxeFx's and just couldn't do it. I'm like "It must be me! no it's just not sounding musical...must be my playing, or my tweaking or... :cursing: " Sold the Axe FxII and am FINALLY after years getting the BASS, CHIME, SUSTAIN ETC... that I longed for. I damn near feel betrayed with the AxeFx :cursing:
Will never look back.
CH

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Thursday, March 8th 2012, 1:58pm

I had similar experience. However I only had the Axe Standard but I think the Axe 2 is not far away from the standard (soundwise). The amps and cabs within the KPA play in another league :thumbsup: The Axe sounds always a littel bit sterile others would call it clear, Hifi-like. I often miss the dirt and warmth in the Axe-Sound.

For some kind of music like Jazz, Pink Floyd or U2 I would prefer the axe over the KPA because of the better effects. You can get an outstanding wide stereo sound from the Axe when you use effects like reverb, delay and chorus.

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