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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 3:13pm


microphone A sounds like 90% of what you want.
microphone B sounds like 70% of what you want.
Mix those two together and it'll be like 80%
My point is: it's better to use mic A only.
You should also keep in mind that using two mics is pretty crazy for positioning them correctly.

Experiment as much as you want ofcourse, but really, you should be able to get a killer tone with just an SM57.
There's a reason why so much awesome productions only use this microphone.


Wrong calculation, that makes it 160% realer!!! :D
I can only work from my own experience, and I like the results I've gotten using two different mics. I'm sure it depends on the mics, etc., though.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 3:21pm

That was just a joke, based on a sentence that have became famous in forums....
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" Serghei Rachmaninoff


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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 3:29pm

In my 25+ years of recording miced up cabs, I have never been happy with using just one mic. Its like you only get a small peice of the ideal picture. The first mic is perhaps 60%, the second mic adds perhaps 30% and a well chosen 3rd mic just might add the missing 10,,, or some of it. But make very sure they are all at the same distance from the speaker and in phase or very far away, or phase issues might land you well back under 50% again.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 3:53pm


Experiment as much as you want ofcourse, but really, you should be able to get a killer tone with just an SM57.
There's a reason why so much awesome productions only use this microphone.
One of the reasons why the SM57 is such a good guitar recording mike is because of its limitations. It has a very characteristic mid range boost while the high end and low end are not so prominent. This gets the guitar sound very mix friendly in order to reduce the overlapping frequencies with the bass and the cymbals. A LDC mike on the other hand is great in capturing the high end and low end frequencies and gets you a more even frequency curve which sounds fuller if you are playing alone. Again this a "producer vs. guitarist view" thing and totally depends on whether you are producing or just playing.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 4:05pm

In my 25+ years of recording miced up cabs, I have never been happy with using just one mic. Its like you only get a small peice of the ideal picture. The first mic is perhaps 60%, the second mic adds perhaps 30% and a well chosen 3rd mic just might add the missing 10,,, or some of it. But make very sure they are all at the same distance from the speaker and in phase or very far away, or phase issues might land you well back under 50% again.
I think that multi-mic setups are fantastic for recording an amp.

IMHO I have the feeling that profiling with multiple mics might be more difficult than using a single good mic. But this is just my opinion for now.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 4:09pm

Never liked the SM57 for cleans or for small cabs.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 5:11pm

Profiling with multiple mics is no more difficult than with a single mic if you have the know how.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 7:22pm

In my 25+ years of recording miced up cabs, I have never been happy with using just one mic. Its like you only get a small peice of the ideal picture. The first mic is perhaps 60%, the second mic adds perhaps 30% and a well chosen 3rd mic just might add the missing 10,,, or some of it. But make very sure they are all at the same distance from the speaker and in phase or very far away, or phase issues might land you well back under 50% again.


I think the ideal situation would for the Kemper to be able to run †wo amp models simultaneously. That way you could profile the same rig twice with different mics and then blend them together in the Kemper.

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Friday, March 30th 2012, 9:21pm

I havent even played for some of my profiles..... M'I bad ? :)

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Friday, March 30th 2012, 10:21pm

Do you get this cocked wah sound with profiles from other users or only your own profiles? Have you checked if there is a wah activated if using a profile form a different user?

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The 'cocked-wah clank' sound seems most prevalent on some of the Marshall Rigs I have collected (no wahs engaged) - many times the definition amp parameter is on 10, and the attacks are just unnaturally piercing and non-musical to my ears. I don't have any personal examples because I always do something to correct the problem before going to the trouble of 'tagging'/saving them, or I just abort the profiling session. In the instances where I want a bit of cocked-wah tonality, I do it at a lower frequency that's not so gnarly - the one that I dislike sounds somewhere between 1 to 2Kz with a peaky resonance...