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1fastdog

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Friday, April 27th 2012, 3:41am

I'd pay for the right profile and wouldn't for one which doesn't interest me. So much of the true appropriate use of a profile depends on the context of the overall production and arrangement in which it will be be placed. Sometime the not so stellar on it's own tone is right for the total production.

I can't truly share any wisdom on the business viability of a prospectus such as you suggest. That's where the gamble comes into focus, including the same iffy situation a record deal includes. The viability of a business plan depends on the final product and less so the circumstances the hit or flop recording was done under.

Better to bite the bullet and do a bang up job on a single amp... establish the clear superiority of your premise and execution ability. A smoking "demo" for lack of a better description. Then the resonse will let you know if there's some traction in your idea.

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "1fastdog" (Apr 27th 2012, 3:54am)


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Friday, April 27th 2012, 8:26am


Better to bite the bullet and do a bang up job on a single amp... establish the clear superiority of your premise and execution ability. A smoking "demo" for lack of a better description. Then the response will let you know if there's some traction in your idea.
True.
Pete (okstrat), it a killer guitarist who's uploaded some 'special' Profiles with 'live' sound clips as well as this video of his band...in other words, he's proved himself. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crrWehpT9jM&feature=youtu.be

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 1:02pm

paying for quality packs

I've posted a contribution to the thread started by Andy, and44, to do with the second amazing pack of amps and cabs that he has produced.

I wanted to use it as an opportunity to continue the discussion about remunerating these guys. Andy, and Mats, come to mind as 2 guys who have gone massively beyond what might be expected to give us some amazing sounds, and frankly the chance to play amps which we can only dream of, and i for one feel we should make it acceptable for them to charge a reasonable amount for us to access their work, since it must cost them time and money.

Who knows if we help them help us, we could get even more. I know there are some other pioneers of profiling, Tills being one that comes to mind, so i mention this for all of you that spend extra time and effort making my guitar playing even more joyous

I know this is contentious, but I don't think its wrong , this isn't about the profiling the odd amp we have at home, this is about guys producing superbly recorded collections, and while we may end up just doing the donation thing, thats fine, but maybe we need to help formalise it a bit more, just a thought

I throw it open to the forum, what do you think guys?

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 2:01pm

Already expressed my opinion in the other thread. Not sure why we we have to discuss the same in three different threads!!?? ?(

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 2:05pm

sorry, lost track of all the threads, theres so many, have added my comments now to what may have been the original one

the consensus anyway seems to be donations rather than sale, so happy to do that, just wanted these guys to get a fair shake

complicated things these forums

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 2:16pm

sorry, lost track of all the threads, theres so many, have added my comments now to what may have been the original one

the consensus anyway seems to be donations rather than sale, so happy to do that, just wanted these guys to get a fair shake

complicated things these forums

Agreed! And look at Andy's threads about his two profiling sessions and check out how many people said that they donated. I would guess and hope that this means he's got a fair share.
Plus I agree with all others that charging for profiles somehow would go against the basic principle of this open community and the idea of sharing.

Cheers,
Markus

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 3:06pm

I think i'll step in here before things get outta hand, and I dont want that to happen.

Im a Pro musican and therfore have access to a lot of things perhaps others dont. - My love for all things being good has turned out well in the KPA community, sharing what is mine and giving to those that dont... and this I certainly want to continue. Ive not a problem carrying on the way it is now.

On the negative side. - and I wont lie, it does cost me, and the return I get by a (thankfull) donation from you amazing guys sadly doesnt cover the cost in any way. - but for me its more a token of appreciation, and for that I have upmost respect to you. Honestly..and I certainly dont want them to stop : )

..SO why do I do it then? - well, I do it becasue of my reasons above. (the love) we are all here becasue we share one main thing..we are all guitar players sharing the same platform. - I know whats its like to want something you cant afford, and to admire/envy/hate those that do. and untill now, this was not possible. - well now it is thanks to Kemper the company, I can share my amps, effects, so others can also enjoy. - the world is too small and too short for selfishness, musicans are a tight group, "Signature sound" is one thing, but my fingers are my own, and yours are yours.. what I get here will differ from what you will get too. so Im not precious or upset in any way, just as long as you help me.. by offering good feedback.

The money donated to me will help to be used to hire anything new and rare that I dont own. - im still doing what Im doing, and enjoying bringing you the stuff I do.. our partnership will work if your appreciation continues and you all have done.. so im blessed with thanks to you all for that.. really! . and that is all I ask. - the donations are a bonus, but not a "must"

So far, the comments have been joyfull to read, and wants me to do more and more.. and each time get better at my craft. - I want the KPA to outgrow its rivals, and if I can play a small part in that.. then good!

And yes, ive some majour things going on KPA related that is going to take me months of planning and doing. (more on that to come)
So yeah.. just give me your bank account numbers and I'll be on my way.. (lol)

Seriouly, as a end note.. - lets just carry on the way we are.
Dontate if you have some to give, if not then enjoy it and maybe next time : )
Not sure what else to say. so i'll end it here.
A

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 3:39pm

fair enough Andy, laudable and generous sentiments, and your work is gratefully received believe me

i hope when your next efforts are unveiled that the community donations can help more with covering some of the costs, cos as some chap once said, money can't buy me love, but it can be very helpful with many other things!

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 5:23pm

fair enough Andy, laudable and generous sentiments, and your work is gratefully received believe me

i hope when your next efforts are unveiled that the community donations can help more with covering some of the costs, cos as some chap once said, money can't buy me love, but it can be very helpful with many other things!
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Couldn't have said it better, and yes, Andy, you are certainly "paying it forward", to the guitar community, Kudos brother!!!

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 5:52pm

Andy, I hope that more contribute to assist you in your Kemper exploits. We're all benefiting greatly from your work. Many thanks again! :thumbsup: