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Sunday, July 15th 2012, 4:03pm

Bedroom Solution for all the Cheapskates

This is meant for bedroom low volume type playing only .... and, like me, you spent all your hard earned cash on a Kemper - and rightly so - but now have to save up for a decent monitoring setup... My background: 20+ years of playing and semi-pro gigging as a bassist, drummer and guitarist (anything from Dutch Crooners to Punk and Grindcore)

I just picked up a secondhand Behringer Eurolive B212D for € 120.

Compared it to my powered Behringer 2031A and old Roland Cube 60 cab - roomsize 2.50m by 4.00. My verdict:

1. 2031A powered monitor - 8" tighter bass, more definition
2. Eurolive B212D - 12" more in your face, semi-annoying hiss, overkill in a residential area
3. Roland Cab - 12" utter crap, no other decent cab available so no fair comparison there

If you don't play any other music over your speakers in your bedroom besides your Kemper - I'd choose a cheapo secondhand FRFR over powered monitors. Anything sized bigger than 10" is probably overkill. Or get a 12" if you plan on getting it to rehearsals, small gigs.

The guy who sold me the B212D and delivered them at my doorstep - who himself played drums and some guitar for over 30 years - was floored when I played a POD X3 Live with a Metallica patch over it. It gave him goosebumps - he said - as I was just churning out some washed out chords and a sloppy rendition of Sad But True. Did not dare go beyond 30% of the volume. The seller jokingly asked for his money before it would explode. So it's an incredibly loud (half-way) decent speaker i would say.

Sure I want my RCF 12A, Matrix wedge, or whatever quality monitor I can audition locally before buying but - in the mean time - saving up for it I go chugga chugga for 1/10th of the price :)

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Sunday, July 15th 2012, 6:52pm

Yeah, I've played through a Behringer Eurolive B210D and it was usable, but way too much power for a bedroom.

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Sunday, July 15th 2012, 7:02pm

Yeah, I've played through a Behringer Eurolive B210D and it was usable, but way too much power for a bedroom.

There no such thing as "way to much power for a bedroom", Zap :D

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Sunday, July 15th 2012, 7:56pm


There no such thing as "way to much power for a bedroom", Zap


Well, I didn't say it was a BAD thing :whistling:

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Sunday, July 15th 2012, 8:19pm


There no such thing as "way to much power for a bedroom", Zap


Well, I didn't say it was a BAD thing :whistling:

True, very true ;)

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Sunday, July 15th 2012, 9:39pm

I just bought the RCF NX sma12 and I can tell you they are not really ideal for "bedroom" levels because at really low volumes they seem to render less treble than what they bring out at higher volumes - so if you tweak the settings of your KPA at home with low volumes on a 12" FRFR you might end up with a way to much brittle sound on the gigs.

I am still happy with the RCF NX sma12 but for a budget solution it might be better to chose a cheaper fullrange active speaker for playing at home plus a more "conservative" poweramp+guitar cabinet setup for the gig (i.e. a second hand clean guitar-amp with a power amp input).

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Monday, July 16th 2012, 6:08pm

Same here with my QSC K10, it sounds darker at very low volume but I just take care to tweak my live tones at rehearsal. But isn't it the same with anything? I always have to tweak my tones at gig volume with any amp or FRFR rigs.

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Monday, July 16th 2012, 6:31pm

Yep, good old Fletcher-Munson curve.