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Quoted from "ckemper"

I liked this one:

"So my "Brand D" is doing a better job than my "Brand K" because of less aliasing.
But why to hell does "Brand D" not sound and feel as good as "Brand K"? "

Exactly! We listen with ears, not a test instrument.

The truth will always prevail over fear.

bd

Quoted from "schneidas"

Well, Cliff must be getting desperately desperate!

I bet he is. After a pro Kemper thread, I got a private message on another forum from a Matt at Fractal asking me if I'd tried "the lastest firmware version with the tone matching." I hadn't. I haven't tried an Axe FX since a short demo of the Ultra a while ago and I was unimpressed. Nothing I've heard on their site impressed me much either, then or now. I basically told him that. They must be pissing their pants. New kid in town doing something they can't touch that's a lot cheaper. Trust me, I liked the idea and feature set of the Axe FX and I could have had either product and I chose Kemper. The thing is, I could have bought an Axe FX at any time since they came out if I really wanted one... I just never did. The truth is I don't think it's worth the money. Might as well use Amplitube.

Quoted from "musicman65"

The truth will always prevail over fear.

Exactly. The quality of the sound.

Quoted from "ckemper"

I liked this one:

"So my "Brand D" is doing a better job than my "Brand K" because of less aliasing.
But why to hell does "Brand D" not sound and feel as good as "Brand K"? "

Whether it is true or not It is sad they need incur in such dubious tactics . I have to agree they seem desperate. Cliff himself even said that he is going to tone match the best KPA profiles and upload them to Axe Exchange.

Btw, If hope you are able to fix the aliasing issues soon.

Quoted from "guitarnet70"

That's really BS. Cliff must be really desperate to play it like this....sorry for him...

Yeah, I just read his little rant. Sad. First of all, the issue he's talking about really effects nothing. Good guitar tone has so little audio information in that range anyway, which is why he had to disable the cab simulation to see these results. Also... who plays a modeler or profiler without a cab emulation? It would sound like crap. Guess what? Run the best guitar amp in the world into a full range PA style speaker and it'll sound like crap too. Running a 10k sine wave though a guitar amp just sounds silly. I like this comment after he posts the audio of his test:

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"Thanks, I was trying to get my dog's attention (now I can see why you're a cat guy!)."

Of course the Axe FX fanbois won't see any of this. They've already drunk the Kool-aid. I think the only thing this can do is slow the bleeding of Axe FX users who have sold it to go Kemper. Here's the thing. The Axe FX doesn't sound bad at all. It's a great sounding box and I'm sure I could have been happy owning one, but the truth is it's way, way, way over priced. Based on how I felt about it I could see it retailing for about $1000 USD or so. I'm sure I'd already own one if it wasn't priced so damn high. Why did I eagerly drop $1850 on a Kemper? I felt it sounded worth it.

Quoted from "schneidas"

That is ingenious!!!!!

(a direct quote! )

There is a seediness to this whole thing that I think will just turn people off to FAS. Reminds me of the review from Tony McKenzie (http://www.tonymckenzie.com/kemper-amps-review.htm). At the time I bought the KPA, I read his review and thought who cares about personalities. What matters is the tone. However, in retrospect and after all the good interactions on this forum, especially from CK, I think it does matter. But the KPA does win on tone anyway. Anyone who has read my posts on here knows I am in no way a fanboy and have been very critical of many things in the KPA. All the theorizing, postulating and wasted energy on TGP about something that isn't really even an issue is just sad - but that's par for the course for TGP.

I can create a specific test in which a Toyota beats a Ferrari but tell me how many people would rather have the Toyota? (not that the difference is that wide between the boxes but you know what I mean)

Quoted from "JoeBlob"

Listen, you bunch of indignant whiners!™

LMAOASTC

... OTOH, not all the FAS members seem to take the test dogmatically (not sure it translates well in English...). This is good, seems to mean common sense is not completely absent.

well, didn't they offer to 'copy' the best profiles created by the Kemper?

what does that say?

'we can do what the other can...' but we can't offer you a way to capture it... so we'll copy it!

ah well.. the better product always prevail! Kemper all the way!