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Thursday, August 2nd 2012, 12:38am

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Tuesday, January 15th 2013, 1:48pm

So I finally picked up 2 CFR12s and they arrived today...
Very curious how they will hold up against my Mesa4x12!

First impression: man they are tiny 8|
Let's hope they sound huge...

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Tuesday, January 15th 2013, 2:46pm

So I finally picked up 2 CFR12s and they arrived today...
Very curious how they will hold up against my Mesa4x12!

First impression: man they are tiny 8|
Let's hope they sound huge...


Keep us posted buddy

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Tuesday, January 15th 2013, 5:06pm

include pictures too :)
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Tuesday, January 15th 2013, 6:02pm

Will do :)
Thursday at the earliest though 'cause my other stuff is in the rehearsal space...

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Tuesday, January 15th 2013, 8:37pm

So I finally picked up 2 CFR12s and they arrived today...
Very curious how they will hold up against my Mesa4x12!

First impression: man they are tiny 8|
Let's hope they sound huge...


I have two and they easily stack up against a 4x12, agreed that they are tiny though :)

spence

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Tuesday, January 15th 2013, 8:43pm

So I finally picked up 2 CFR12s and they arrived today...
Very curious how they will hold up against my Mesa4x12!

First impression: man they are tiny 8|
Let's hope they sound huge...


I have two and they easily stack up against a 4x12, agreed that they are tiny though :)

spence


Do you mean they give you the same type of feel as a 4x12 or as loud as a 4x12 I'm interested in this I've just purchased only 1 yamaha dxr10 which is small and light. Are you running them like monitors or behind you like a cab

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Thursday, January 17th 2013, 11:54pm

Just got back from the rehearsal space to give the CFR12s a spin.
For the record, signal chain = KPA > Matrix GT1000FX > Matrix CFR12s

First impressions (compared to an oversized Mesa 4x12 cab):

1) Despite their size, they sound wider and "bigger" than the cab, most likely due to the wider dispersion field (and there's 2 of them of course...)

2) I played together with a drummer at rehearsal volume with the GT1000FX at about 40% (levels in the KPA were set at 0dB). They pack more than enough punch.

3) I didn't do any tweaking beforehand, just plugged the new speakers in the main outs (instead of the monitor out I used before) and it did sound fine. After fiddling with mainly EQ and some of the deeper amp and cab settings it sounded great! The changes mainly involved undoing the tweaks that were required to make the Mesa cab sound good. Especially for clean sounds it was a huge improvement, the KPA came alive with the CFR12s while the Mesa cab tended to put a "curtain" over the clean sound. Case and point: the clean patches I programmed for the Mesa cab sounded dreadful over the CFR12s, while switching to a factory preset clean tone resulted in instant tonal bliss.

Summarized (based on 2 hours of messing about):

(+) for heavy rhythm work: sounds as good as the Mesa cab
(+) for lead and especially for clean patches it's a huge improvement
(+) overall sound is more transparent and easier to tweak
(+) stereo
(+) very wide dispersion field, I walked around the rehearsal room while playing and the change in sound is minimal
(+) very (VERY) compact and easy to handle (although they seem very sturdy as well). Everyone that has hauled a Mesa XL cab up a flight of stairs will acknowledge the importance of this :D

(-) as of yet...none (they will look minuscule on a stage? :rolleyes: )

As promised a few pictures, I apologize for the quality, I used my phone camera and those are notoriously crap when used indoors.




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Friday, January 18th 2013, 9:31am

Thanks for the review, Ben.

GT1000FX is IMO an important part of the equation. I have it paired with a Zilla Fatboy 2x12. Hi gain chugga chugga glory, but a cab is not so versatile for cleaner tones.

Other (mediocre amps) I have tried are: Behringer A500, EHX Magnum 44.
GT1000FX is unveiled high definition in your face in comparison. No contest.

greetz from Delft

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