Kemper Amps Forum

So here it is. ( for this profile, Kemper must be connected to a power amp & guitar cab)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55961326/2012-01…0S30%20PRE.kipr

Is the second channel of the amp (drive) all controls in the middle, and all tone shaping buttons off. Gain about 7, boost off, input low.

This was just for experimental purpose I will profile it normally, like all my other amps in the near future.

Edit: I realised that this profile (rig) has chorus - delay - & reverb effects by my mistake. So get them away if you don't need.

If you decide to keep, is like to have them connected to the FX loop of an amp

http://forum.fractalaudio.com/lounge/455…html#post599257

Did I guess correct ?

The Profiles are not very well done, and the volumes are different....not a very professional A/B test.

It took SP a matter of seconds to jump in and come to a thousand conclusions, lol, and this time he didn't even need Flac files.

Quoted from "mDan"

http://forum.fractalaudio.com/lounge/455…html#post599257

Did I guess correct ?

If you're talking to me, yes you guess right . This is the preamp profile of VHT Super 30

Armin

Well done for sorting out the volumes on the clips.

You clearly say that on some of the Profiles you got close and could tweak them closer, and you say on some Profiles you thought the Kemper sounded better than the Axe-FX11 itself, but they conveniently failed to read that over at the Fractal Forum.

One of the things that Mr Kemper has made quite clear is that the KPA has problems profiling some modellers. It may be that the axefx is one of these.
The other thing is that in profiling a modeller you are in effect copying a copy (2nd generation copy).
There was always gonna be a furore over on the axefx forum.
One of the reasons I was quietly satisfied when I finally sold my 1st generation axefxs and went back to tube amps was my embarrassment at the forum behaviour over there. (guilt by association) .
Anything new that came out would be met with a mixture mass panic and/or utter derision. It was almost as if the thought process was like 'OMG something new has come out. Maybe my axefx isn't the best anymore. What will I do? OMG OMG OMG!!.
Used to embarrass me and also to take a lot of the glowing comments about the axefx with a pinch of salt. Nowadays this is another of the things they are now bashing reviews about any other product about. Don't get me wrong I liked the axefx, at the time it probably was the best modeller around, but after the eleven rack and the pod HD came out the gap was closing fast, hence axefx2.
If you believe the hype over there (and this is one of the things they use to whip ppl with nowadays) the axefx was at 95% of a tube amp at firmware 7 of the 1st gen units.Yet every time a new firmware update comes out Cliff is a genius, has raised the ballgame etc.
Surely by now the real tube amps sound about 75% as good as an axefx 2!

Quoted from "Guitartone"

they conveniently failed to read that over at the Fractal Forum.

It's the fractal forum, what do you expect :-) It would be the other way round here
If I post "BMW is better" in a mercedes forum ... of course - there will be bashing

Quoted from "sheguitarplayer"

Surely by now the real tube amps sound about 75% as good as an axefx 2!

So if the KPA captures 99% of the tube amps tone is it 74,25% as good as the Axe II.

q.e.d.

But what if you profile the AxeII and make it better sounding after refining with EQ tweaks etc.... is it then 120% better then an axe2 and tube amps are only 62,5% as good?

The Axe people are crazy!!!

Seriously - let's not start a war here - but those guys have made a huge investment at $2000 upwads.
They invested in the "best of the best in the whole galaxy". So naturally - if another product comes out that rivals that at a lower cost - it just cannot be possible for them.
They seriously start to panic as their world could blow up!!!

Quoted from "schneidas"

The Axe people are crazy!!!

Seriously - let's not start a war here - but those guys have made a huge investment at $2000 upwads.
They invested in the "best of the best in the whole galaxy". So naturally - if another product comes out that rivals that at a lower cost - it just cannot be possible for them.
They seriously start to panic as their world could blow up!!!

Yeah you're right, sorry.
I followed the link and after reading all the -ve comments found myself getting sucked in......
I should know better by now.

Basically, it's the same with the Les Paul forum.
Most of those guys that invested in "historics reissues LP's" are pretty snobbish and can't accept the fact that a much less expensive production model LP can sound better sometimes.

It's basic human psychology with all of them.

All I say is don't let anyone influence you and do not blindly follow hype!
Listen with your own ears because only you know what works best for you!