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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 11:08am

It was also fun to read that one of the sounds was:

"compressed, less life, more fizz and more dull"
"almost sounds like an early sampler"
"worse than a POD"
"pretty cr*p in comparison"
...

what they not know by now is - that was the AxeFx II

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 11:32am

It was also fun to read that one of the sounds was:

"compressed, less life, more fizz and more dull"
"almost sounds like an early sampler"
"worse than a POD"
"pretty cr*p in comparison"
...

what they not know by now is - that was the AxeFx II

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 11:46am

It was also fun to read that one of the sounds was:

"compressed, less life, more fizz and more dull"
"almost sounds like an early sampler"
"worse than a POD"
"pretty cr*p in comparison"
...

what they not know by now is - that was the AxeFx II


Haha, that was a great one :thumbsup:
I posted a clip on another forum... playing 2 clips of the same amp. Saying one was the KPA profile but basically it was 2times the amp. Many people (there is still much prejudice towords digital products) went like "omfg, the profile sounds so bad" blabla. Psychoaccoustic. I like those blind tests. :thumbsup:

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 11:49am

Guys, you're bad boys! :D
Daniel: did you tell them afterwards?

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 12:00pm

Daniel: did you tell them afterwards?


Sure. The Thread derailed and got deleted (I think) - can't find it any more :(
But well... was a big amusement, many "digital products hater" (there will always be guys you hate anything that works with 1s and 0s)

I'm not an Axe-FX hater, I like it and played it for 4 years (Ultra and II), but I'm unbiased and just use whatever suits/sounds best for me, don't care about the price, though it is nice to have saved enough money to buy a nice guitar :)

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 12:07pm

..not unusual at TGP....

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 12:49pm

One of the things that Mr Kemper has made quite clear is that the KPA has problems profiling some modellers. It may be that the axefx is one of these.
The other thing is that in profiling a modeller you are in effect copying a copy (2nd generation copy).
There was always gonna be a furore over on the axefx forum.
One of the reasons I was quietly satisfied when I finally sold my 1st generation axefxs and went back to tube amps was my embarrassment at the forum behaviour over there. (guilt by association) .
Anything new that came out would be met with a mixture mass panic and/or utter derision. It was almost as if the thought process was like 'OMG something new has come out. Maybe my axefx isn't the best anymore. What will I do? OMG OMG OMG!!.
Used to embarrass me and also to take a lot of the glowing comments about the axefx with a pinch of salt. Nowadays this is another of the things they are now bashing reviews about any other product about. Don't get me wrong I liked the axefx, at the time it probably was the best modeller around, but after the eleven rack and the pod HD came out the gap was closing fast, hence axefx2.
If you believe the hype over there (and this is one of the things they use to whip ppl with nowadays) the axefx was at 95% of a tube amp at firmware 7 of the 1st gen units.Yet every time a new firmware update comes out Cliff is a genius, has raised the ballgame etc.
Surely by now the real tube amps sound about 75% as good as an axefx 2!
+ 1000 :)

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 12:53pm

they conveniently failed to read that over at the Fractal Forum.

It's the fractal forum, what do you expect :-) It would be the other way round here 8)
If I post "BMW is better" in a mercedes forum ... of course - there will be bashing :D

Surely by now the real tube amps sound about 75% as good as an axefx 2!


:thumbsup:

So if the KPA captures 99% of the tube amps tone is it 74,25% as good as the Axe II.

q.e.d.

But what if you profile the AxeII and make it better sounding after refining with EQ tweaks etc.... is it then 120% better then an axe2 and tube amps are only 62,5% as good?

?(
If you post BMW is better on the Mercedes forum then you deserve to be bashed. :D

BMW = Axe-FX11, Kemper = Mercedes. :thumbsup:

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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 12:58pm

...neee, more like this one:


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Tuesday, January 10th 2012, 1:00pm

...neee, more like this one:

Nothing compares to that, not even the Kemper 111. :)