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Radley

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Wednesday, February 29th 2012, 6:12am

A *direct mix* parameter added to the Amp block...

I have what many might call a *strange* feature request: I would like to see a *DIRECT MIX* parameter added to the Amp block - sometimes just a bit of direct signal causes the Amp to sound/respond more authoritatively and solid. Don't knock it til you try it :o) (I can do this with some of my other modelers)

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Wednesday, February 29th 2012, 7:19am

And to make this even better & more flexible, a basic HF *tone control or LPF* for this direct signal (rolling off the highs from the direct signal makes the effect more subtle, while still supplying the fundamental tonal support)

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Wednesday, February 29th 2012, 11:57am

And to make this even better & more flexible, a basic HF *tone control or LPF* for this direct signal (rolling off the highs from the direct signal makes the effect more subtle, while still supplying the fundamental tonal support)

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Friday, March 23rd 2012, 9:17pm

This 'direct mix' parameter would be done in such a way that the direct signal would also be affected by the other Amp parameters (compression, pick etc....)

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Monday, March 26th 2012, 9:49am

while I personally don't care for such a feature what you are trying to do is already kind possible

1) use the direct out, record it to a separate track or use a mixer to add it to your signal

2) cabinet 'character' control. by turning this to the left, you are smoothing the IR, which adds a 'old style' speaker sim characteristic if you turn it far enough

the reason I don't see the point is that you'll effectively get the effect of distortion 'riding on top of the clean signal', which is something I found to be a weakness of some other guitar processors.
some people like to mix bass with this approach, but personally, so far I always chose the DI or the amp track, never a mix.

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Monday, March 26th 2012, 10:03am

while I personally don't care for such a feature what you are trying to do is already kind possible

1) use the monitor out (DI signal here), record it to a separate track or use a mixer to add it to your signal


The monitor out will give you the distorted signal without a cab (if you wish so). But you could use the direct out which will give you the unprocessed signal. Since this is also the same procedure you would use for reamping, i can only encourage everyone to ALWAYS record the DI Track to a second track. Though you might never need it, it could save your life sometime. If you plan to mix the the processed KPA tones with the direct guitar tone in your DAW, please check if both tracks are in phase correctly.

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Monday, March 26th 2012, 11:21am


The monitor out will give you the distorted signal without a cab (if you wish so). But you could use the direct out which will give you the unprocessed signal. Since this is also the same procedure you would use for reamping, i can only encourage everyone to ALWAYS record the DI Track to a second track. Though you might never need it, it could save your life sometime. If you plan to mix the the processed KPA tones with the direct guitar tone in your DAW, please check if both tracks are in phase correctly.


right.
that's what I meant.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 7:38am

Thanks for the info, but I believe this makes it all too much of a hassle to deal with - the more options we have onboard the KPA (which don't require extra cabling), the better it is - I simply disagree.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 4:07pm

I agree with Radley.
If we think to the KPA as a studio tool this feature might be useless. But if we want to achieve certaines tones in a live contest I'd prefere to have an onboard mixing tool besides having a separate mixer with a fixed bled (because i cannot change it manually for each of 30 songs i play live).

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Monday, August 13th 2012, 8:41pm

Thread revival:
This apparently has been added to the amp block in the latest public beta FW? Atleast there's a "direct mix" parameter.