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Tuesday, March 20th 2012, 7:31pm

acoustic guitar rigs

Ahoi,

I was close to buy an acoustic amp but then I discovered the KPA. Acoustic and electric amp in one and in best quality?! I tried the acoustic rigs (Schertler, AER, Fishman...) but what I got is a deep-dead-hollow-electric sound...not really usful for an acoustic guitar. Only when I turn of the amp and cabinet and just use the equalizer - then it`s okay...not more, but then I can use any other amp/rig as well....f.e. the jazz clean rig...turn off the amp/cabinet and just use the equalizer....makes no sense, right?
I am a bloody beginner and normally it`s my fault....too stupid to use the technique ;)
I guess you made other experiences right? Let me know...

cheers...

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Wednesday, March 21st 2012, 10:23am

I think those rigs are usable. Did you compare it with a real ac GTR amp?

Or maybe the mic the aurthor using is not match for ac GTR AMP, a condenser mic would be nice. I saw him using a MD 421 in one rig.

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Wednesday, March 21st 2012, 11:32am

RE: acoustic guitar rigs

Ahoi,


I was close to buy an acoustic amp but then I discovered the KPA. Acoustic and electric amp in one and in best quality?! I tried the acoustic rigs (Schertler, AER, Fishman...) but what I got is a deep-dead-hollow-electric sound...not really usful for an acoustic guitar. Only when I turn of the amp and cabinet and just use the equalizer - then it`s okay...not more, but then I can use any other amp/rig as well....f.e. the jazz clean rig...turn off the amp/cabinet and just use the equalizer....makes no sense, right?

I am a bloody beginner and normally it`s my fault....too stupid to use the technique ;)

I guess you made other experiences right? Let me know...

cheers...



Hi


I have not finished my tests yet with the Kemper yet. In the Moment I use just an Boss AD3 premap in front of my active Fullrange monitor box (was Yamaha DXR 10, now EV EXL1112p) and get a sound as good or even betteras the AER 60 but with much more power reserve. As the AD30 actually provide a 2 Band parametric eq; Reverb and Chorus the Kemper should fulfil all these tasks as well, apart from the automatic Feedback detection of the AD3. In addition you have the compressor in the Kemper. When I get further I will come back. For me it makes not really sense to profile acoustic amps which are more or less the same as an active fullrange system with effects and EQ.

All the best

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Wednesday, March 21st 2012, 4:27pm

maybe it makes no sense to profile an acoustic amp...I don`t know....I don`t have live experiences...
I will get a Cromacord acoustic amp in 1-2 days and I try to profile it...let`s see what happens...

thanks...

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Monday, April 1st 2013, 2:14am

Acoustic rigs

I've used them in a live situation. I've found that they sound very thin and pretty much ruins my Aer ak15+ powered Stonebridge D23cr. I didn't have enough time to tweak the profiles a tad more. But that was my and my sound engineers first impressions.

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Monday, April 1st 2013, 10:00am

May I ask by what means you are carrying you acoustic guitar to the KPA, piezo? Mic? Magnetic pick up? transducer?
" build it and they will come"

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Monday, April 1st 2013, 10:26am

I am a big fan of the Fishman Aura technology. Planning to profile my first generation Aura preamp with my favourite Esteve file for classical guitar soon. Just for curiousity, as the KPA is much bigger (and heavier) than the Aura. And for my kind of touring size matters most.

Will post it on the Rig exchange.

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Monday, April 1st 2013, 12:20pm

My versions (DP Piezo) where made for use with Piezo and active preamp (Ovation). Been using them Live the all time and always been happy with it...
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" Serghei Rachmaninoff


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Friday, April 5th 2013, 4:46pm

I have a totally different experience, I tried the Acoustic A/B/C/D/E profiles by M. Franzkowiak that are included in Rig Pack4 and they were better than my AER Cube 60. In currently use QSC K12 as my monitor and an acoustic guitar with undersaddle pick up. Although I didn't like the highs of QSC for distortion initially but somehow I managed to tweak the highs so I'm ok now. In addition I also tried the same rig using an Alto T112a when I auditioned it, the sound was still better than my AER acoustic amp. However I tried the AER profile in the KPA and I didn't like it so I erased it.

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Pentatonic" (Apr 5th 2013, 4:55pm)