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Radley

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:11am

Black Magic or Science?

I find it a bit disconcerting how few posts there are about getting better sounds and profiles from the KPA, either from the users or the creators. I have tried to add my 2ยข, but there really seems to be a vacuum on this all-important aspect of the Kemper. It leaves one with the impression it is mostly 'dark magic', which neither the users nor creators totally understand...

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:20am

It might just be that the users are happy with the sound they get from the Kemper?

Also it can be concluded that if there is no need to tweak things are great as they are?

Just my 2 EURO Cents.....

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:34am

In essence, 'Why mess with Perfection?' ^^

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:37am

To me it's the same as getting a good sound with any other fx unit, or even with an amp (with the difference being that with the KPA you have to be much more careful about making smaller adjustments to the tone and gain than you would with a real amp as it goes so much further than most real amps).

I simply scroll through till I find a sound that I like and that reflects my mood today, then play and do most of the adjusting on the guitar. Maybe dial up a little verb or delay and that's pretty much it. If I want more definition I dial up presense and treble, if i want a tighter sound i remove the mids, and if i want to reduce bass flub i reduce the bass... the rest comes down to my guitar and fingers really.

One thing I do with the Kemper and I'm looking for sounds is listen to the distortion characteristic and pick based on that, then from there decide if I want to change out the cab or not to sculpt the tone further. Whether I want smooth or more crunch distortion.

Final good sound in a mix is down to arrangement and a touch of hipass. Just making sure there's room for the other instruments, especially any vocals and bass.

TBH the unit is pretty much no-brainer for me most of the time. The one way I wish it were more amp like is if it's tone stack could mimick my amp more accurately, maybe blending through profiles using the controls at different settings. That way I could ditch the amp altogether (all I'd need to do is profile it at the different tone and gain settings and have the ekmepr automatically link them togehter based on the settings I gave it at the start of the profiling process). Sure a profile might grow, but I think I can just about squeeze a 60kb profile onto my usb stick (assuming 3 position per knob, though of course it'd be 72kb if volume = master was also profiled).

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:38am

I've noticed the same thing, and it's the first time for me, with all previous modellers the 'how to fix/improve my tone' discussions dominated the guitar forums.

Obviously the overwhelming majority of KPA users are happy with the tones they're getting, they don't feel the need to 'fix' anything...isn't that a good thing?
If improvements come in time then great, if not then it doesn't change the fact that it sounds great as is right now.

The KPA has been declared a "game changing" product, read the pro reviews, they all say the same thing.

CK changed the game, now the 'players' must get on with it.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:41am

In essence, 'Why mess with Perfection?' ^^
"By George, I think he's got it!!!" :D

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:46am

I just think it's a good thing for users to 'connect' and figure out what techniques seem to work best, because the manual is very vague, even to the point of being unhelpful - it's only normal to want more, no?

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:47am

Yeah, I find its a bit of a no brainer to use. I just find a profile in the ballpark of what Im looking for and dial it like an amp. Add a couple of fx and Im done.
It felt at first as if something was missing ( not having to fiddle around to get the sound I want ) but its a luxury Ive quickly come to appreciate.
I had my first band rehearsal without mine last night (my replacement arrives today) and we all missed it for sure.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:48am

I know what you mean Radley.
I find its a bit of a no brainer to use. I just find a profile in the ballpark of what Im looking for and dial it like an amp. Add a couple of fx and Im done.
It felt at first as if something was missing ( not having to fiddle around to get the sound I want ) but its a luxury Ive quickly come to appreciate.
I had my first band rehearsal without mine last night (my replacement arrives today) and we all missed it for sure.

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Thursday, March 29th 2012, 8:56am

I think it's great to connect, but at the same time we're all so busy making music. I think the majority of KPA users aren't in "the race" anymore.

I figure it's less about sharing, because that's more like writing tutorials for playing the guitar. And more about asking questions. if people need to knwo how to do something then they'll ask or complain and people will come to their rescue.

TBH that's the way I like it. Concise information, less waflle, more doing. Good signal to noise ratio :)

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