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Friday, April 6th 2012, 11:43pm

For me both are great, each does something the other can't do as well, that's why I've kept both, for the fun of it I tried playing both with similar patches on a pretty decent size PA, each panned to one side only, and what a huge sound!!!! lol Still only use AXE II live, will only try the KPA live when the firmware matures a bit more.

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Friday, April 6th 2012, 11:44pm

LOL... Everybody feel better now after the beatings?

I'm still baffled as to why people feel the need to insult the "opposition" AFTER they have made a choice to buy something. Is it confirmation bias at work?

"AssFx"..? Really? How old are you?

Full disclosure, I bought an Axe-FX II for $2200. Is it perfect? No. I also thought about buying a Kemper. Is it perfect? No. In fact I worked with someone at a studio here in LA and we both thought that both the AXE and the Kemper were excellent, but recorded the final tracks with real amplifiers.

If I do buy a Kemper that last thing I'll do is post ANYTHING that doesn't totally flatter it, as witnessed by what happens here, even if you are a working professional with decades of experience and are even only slightly critical of it. I thought the Fractal forum was a bit much, but as we all know, the Kemper, and this forum beats Fractal.

Thanks, I feel better too.

I may still buy a Kemper. Or I may sell my Fractal, and forget the Kemper too, and start buying real amps again.

Ok, I'm ready, let the beatings continue.
Relax. :)

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Friday, April 6th 2012, 11:56pm

LOL... Everybody feel better now after the beatings?

I'm still baffled as to why people feel the need to insult the "opposition" AFTER they have made a choice to buy something. Is it confirmation bias at work?

"AssFx"..? Really? How old are you?

Full disclosure, I bought an Axe-FX II for $2200. Is it perfect? No. I also thought about buying a Kemper. Is it perfect? No. In fact I worked with someone at a studio here in LA and we both thought that both the AXE and the Kemper were excellent, but recorded the final tracks with real amplifiers.

If I do buy a Kemper that last thing I'll do is post ANYTHING that doesn't totally flatter it, as witnessed by what happens here, even if you are a working professional with decades of experience and are even only slightly critical of it. I thought the Fractal forum was a bit much, but as we all know, the Kemper, and this forum beats Fractal.

Thanks, I feel better too.

I may still buy a Kemper. Or I may sell my Fractal, and forget the Kemper too, and start buying real amps again.

Ok, I'm ready, let the beatings continue.


Nah man u have taken this all wrong. I actually owned an axe before and thought it was decent. Why did I start this? Because months ago I put my name on a list which apparently would make it somewhat more affordable. I have had my kpa for a couple months and have made use of it. I didn't have to get on some wait list to make it more affordable to me and I paid several hundred less for it even after my coupon came up.

So besides functionality, it was obviously a no brainier on which I should go. I could either have no product to use for months while I wait for the coupon which would effect productivity or I could I paid through the roof to jump the line. Which I actually did the first time around.

So fractal actually helped me decide which to go for by their system and availability

I am actually thankful for the cause I much prefer the sounds possible with Kemper at this point. I just find it funny that after waiting a long time my coupon finally came up and thankfully this while time I have ha the Kemper to keep me up and working.

No need to feel defensive it's not a knock on anything except the process for me really. If I were rich I'd maybe have both. But I don't feel the need to have both

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "audioholic" (Apr 7th 2012, 6:41pm)


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Saturday, April 7th 2012, 12:17pm

LOL... Everybody feel better now after the beatings?

I'm still baffled as to why people feel the need to insult the "opposition" AFTER they have made a choice to buy something. Is it confirmation bias at work?

"AssFx"..? Really? How old are you?

Full disclosure, I bought an Axe-FX II for $2200. Is it perfect? No. I also thought about buying a Kemper. Is it perfect? No. In fact I worked with someone at a studio here in LA and we both thought that both the AXE and the Kemper were excellent, but recorded the final tracks with real amplifiers.

If I do buy a Kemper that last thing I'll do is post ANYTHING that doesn't totally flatter it, as witnessed by what happens here, even if you are a working professional with decades of experience and are even only slightly critical of it. I thought the Fractal forum was a bit much, but as we all know, the Kemper, and this forum beats Fractal.

Thanks, I feel better too.

I may still buy a Kemper. Or I may sell my Fractal, and forget the Kemper too, and start buying real amps again.

Ok, I'm ready, let the beatings continue.


Sorry to hurt your feelings there bro. Being the sensitive type maybe you shouldn't come to a forum of a competing product and expect to hear nice comments. And yeah cool. Maybe get some real amps. Us Kemper users have those too.

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Saturday, April 7th 2012, 3:23pm

After 4 months I received an email from G66 that my Axe 2 was ready to ship. I had the KPA for 2 months then and I was so convinced of the quality that I cancelled the Axe 2 order. I sold my Ultra for a good price to finance the 2. Now after cancelling the 2 I have hunders of euro's left.......Untill today I have no regret of that decision.

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Saturday, April 7th 2012, 5:02pm

For me both are great, each does something the other can't do as well, that's why I've kept both, for the fun of it I tried playing both with similar patches on a pretty decent size PA, each panned to one side only, and what a huge sound!!!! lol Still only use AXE II live, will only try the KPA live when the firmware matures a bit more.


Same here. Axe-fx user since 2007 . Solid live and studio box period. Digging the KPA tones but probably will not use it live with my cover band. I can dial in my tones so much quicker with the axe. I just need more time to get used to the KPA. We cranked up one of my half stacks the other day and I got to say I still love them too! It's nice to have choices.
The fanboy crap doesn't do any good to any product. Like love or hate, it comes down to what gets your juices going.

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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 1:04am

Sorry to hurt your feelings there bro. Being the sensitive type maybe you shouldn't come to a forum of a competing product and expect to hear nice comments. And yeah cool. Maybe get some real amps. Us Kemper users have those too.


You are demonstrating my point.

First of all, my feelings are not hurt. The fact that you feel the need to belittle others to prop up yourself and your view makes your position that much weaker. I suspect that your need to do this comes more from your own sensitivity and insecurity.

Second, I don't see why I can't come here to learn about something I may want to buy. As funny as it may seem to you, I have owned equipment from a number of different manufacturers and not once did I feel the need to view them as "competing" with each other. Frankly that's just juvenile. I never looked at a Fender and thought it was any less "better", or competing with a Marshall or Mesa, or whatever. The right tool for the job, is all this stuff is about, the way I see it.

To call an Axe-FX "AssFX" says more about you than the Axe-FX. Which brings me back to my original point.

Enjoy "winning" your battles!

Peace out...

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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 1:19am

No need for vitriol. We're all here to share the experience and learn.

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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 1:21am

Sorry to hurt your feelings there bro. Being the sensitive type maybe you shouldn't come to a forum of a competing product and expect to hear nice comments. And yeah cool. Maybe get some real amps. Us Kemper users have those too.


You are demonstrating my point.

First of all, my feelings are not hurt. The fact that you feel the need to belittle others to prop up yourself and your view makes your position that much weaker. I suspect that your need to do this comes more from your own sensitivity and insecurity.

Second, I don't see why I can't come here to learn about something I may want to buy. As funny as it may seem to you, I have owned equipment from a number of different manufacturers and not once did I feel the need to view them as "competing" with each other. Frankly that's just juvenile. I never looked at a Fender and thought it was any less "better", or competing with a Marshall or Mesa, or whatever. The right tool for the job, is all this stuff is about, the way I see it.

To call an Axe-FX "AssFX" says more about you than the Axe-FX. Which brings me back to my original point.

Enjoy "winning" your battles!

Peace out...


dude, I am not belittling anyone. If you get a corncob up your ass just because I jokingly call it AssFX and then come all the way over to the Kemper forum to lambast people for saying they gave up the waiting list slot since they liked the Kemper better then you are the one with the problem and confirmation bias insecurity.

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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 1:29am

I thought "AssFx" was pretty funny, actually. I have heard it called a lot of things, but never that!

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