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Dathudo

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101

Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 8:17pm

Keep it cheap..

Wauw. Lots of great ideas..
My strongest wish is for the unit to remain fairly priced though..

The Kemper is truly worth the money, but I've still emptied my pockets, remember ;)

benvdd

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Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 8:52pm

btw, i'm all in for that looper !!! on "my" compact floorboard, just hold tap for like 1 sec, and instead of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 you have rec, play, undo, redo, stop... 8o
Why would they integrate a simple looper in the KPA when the people who use loopers (myself included) want something more advanced anyway and the people who use it at home can just as well load a piece of looper software on their pc...would seem like a waste of time and money to me.

kilihahn

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Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 9:13pm

i think there are plenty of users who would appreciate even a very basic built in looper, as well as a dedicated solo-boost without needing to "waste" one of them precious fx-slots. ain't rocket science either, just maybe a lack of memory not allowing exactly this, as well as longer delays, but no official comment so far...

imall41

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Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 9:37pm


Proprietary means, that the board will not have its own power supply.
This will save significant costs.
Also we don't want to have this pedal selfcontained, with all kinds of midi functions. At least not initially.
If we add generic midi functions, they can be sent thru the Profilers Midi Out.
We can avoid a complicated programing method on the device itself.

There is so many fantastic generic pedals on the market. We don't want to compete with them.
I agree, keep the costs down, and make it proprietary to the KPA.
I also agree, no looper.
I use a separate looper to capture other signal paths, along with the KPA.
Plus, leave free as much memory as possible, inside the KPA, for more important functions, s/a harmonizer, pitch shifter, ring mod, etc.....

If they pack everything into this controller, we will wind up with another MFC-101 at $749.

105

Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 10:52pm

Well, the foot controller is just a bunch of switches... All features (Rig memories, A/B Stack, ABCD/XMDR, Tuner and even the Looper) are features in the KPA. So there's no reason to have an important price increase between a model with 15 switches and a model, let say, with 20 switches.

The Foot Controller would be expensive if it would have audio path I/O, etc... but that won't be the case (even not midi), so it shouldn't be a problem.

106

Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 10:58pm

Well, the foot controller is just a bunch of switches... All features (Rig memories, A/B Stack, ABCD/XMDR, Tuner and even the Looper) are features in the KPA. So there's no reason to have an important price increase between a model with 15 switches and a model, let say, with 20 switches.

The Foot Controller would be expensive if it would have audio path I/O, etc... but that won't be the case (even not midi), so it shouldn't be a problem.
I agree.
What I consider the most important is that nobody should feel like that something is missing... and it's worth even a bigger footprint, at least for me, to have everything that we might need.

107

Tuesday, May 1st 2012, 11:16pm

Think of...

Hi CK, Hi
Forum!

I like CKs
layout, here what I think about and some additional idea

-The TAP
button has to be like in CKs version. When it isn’t in the first row you have
to tap having the foot in the air. Quite hard to get the right tempo this way.
And even worse while playing a song and try to perform.

-tuner:
need to see the note I tune, at least when changing tune. So would be great to
have the note beside the 3 lights or the whole tuner in the display.

-the buttons:
Think the idea with the 4leds for the effect buttons is good. Maybe even more users would get more happy
(at least not less) when the BankButtons and the 5 Buttons in the first row
would be fully programmable. So you could use it for getting a special rig , or
as additional effect buttons… a bit like the switch of the Marshall JVM410H,
there you could assign any button of the amps front panel or any combination of
channel selection/mastervolume/reverb etc. to any footswitchbutton.

Personaly I will not need 50 sounds per gig. So I wouldn’t need the Bank Up/Down buttons
for live use and would be happy to assign it with rigs or effects. But as we
all know, each kemper user would need an other board…. But with free
programmable buttons it would get a bit more the “Eierlegendewollmilchsau”.

-Additional Switches/Pedals
Some need them, some not and some of us need as many as they can get…
Of course, you can’t build 50 different versions of the kemper switch, but why not a
modular system?
Build the “Main Footswitch” as in the layout, maybe even with 2 or 3 buttons less BUT
also build extension that you can (mechanicaly) connect to the Main Footswitch,
I mean in the way can combine several Boss FS-5U (and other) Switches.

So the ones who don’t need many switches and no pedals would be happy as it is and all the
others buy extensions that can be mounted easily, without any tools at the side.
So you have ONE Floor Board with Pedal(s) or additional Switches. It must be
build in a way that the connection between the “Main”Foot controller and the
extensions is easy to do and the whole board is not “wobbly”on the floor. But
hey, some people walked on the Moon 40 years ago, this is a forum for a unit
that is able to profile Tube Amps and all what this is about is simple Mechanic…

Another GREAT feature that would cause less cables, less signal quality loss and less
problems would be an Guitar Input as well as Send/Return jacks. I don’t think
that this will be realized cause it needs addition A/D and D/A technic but I got
to write this cause this would be so great. The 9v Power Outlet for other
pedals would make these features perfect.

My dream is to go on stage, to studio, to rehearsal and so on with the Kemper, the Kemper
Controler and as less cables and other gear as possible….

The things I wrote are all possible, but what is realistic for the Kemper?

108

Wednesday, May 2nd 2012, 8:34pm

Buttons for boost and fx-loop would be really nice!

+1 for them

109

Thursday, May 3rd 2012, 2:27am

Buttons for boost and fx-loop would be really nice!

+1 for them


I like the boost button idea, we've been discussing it since a long time.

Question is: what is the boost?
1. Engaging a distortion stomp
2. Amp gain increase
3. Overall Volume boost
4. A combination of 1, 2, 3, or even all

How would you assign this to a boost button? Looks a bit complicated. We want easy solutions.

110

Thursday, May 3rd 2012, 2:48am

3. Overall Volume boost


3. Overall Volume boost :thumbsup: