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Quoted from "ckemper"

Quoted from "Steeldom"

Buttons for boost and fx-loop would be really nice!

+1 for them

I like the boost button idea, we've been discussing it since a long time.

Question is: what is the boost?
1. Engaging a distortion stomp
2. Amp gain increase
3. Overall Volume boost
4. A combination of 1, 2, 3, or even all

How would you assign this to a boost button? Looks a bit complicated. We want easy solutions.

4th option for me or at least the combination of 1 and 3, it shouldn't be too complicated in terms of programming I think.

In my first thought, the "Boost" was an overall configurable volume you can setup for each Bank/Song.

For instance, you can have a +5 db for one Song, but for the other one you might need a +10 db boost.
And the boost is acting regardless the "Presets/Memory/Channels" you are.

Since it would have an option menu to adjust the value, why not having the other 2 options for the Amp Gain increase and/or Distortion pedal on.

I haven't thought about it, but having the boost that could allow to switch from a 9 o'clock gain to a 12 o'clock gain on the Amp Profile, that could be very useful too, I can definitely see it. So now it more depends on "how hard would it be to implement these options".

Note: Regarding the "edition", I was thinking we could use one of the external pedal as the "Value Pedal", which means you can adjust value of things you're selecting. For instance, if you select the Distortion, you could adjust the drive... Or, we could also have a foot switch/knob like the G-System. Nonetheless, the configuration of the Boost feature could be setup directly on the KPA and saved with the Song...

Just thinking out loud

Phil

Yeah, thats a nice idea! The boost value could have a few parameters like

- Volume boost (should be independent of the amp volume, in case someone has risen it to full)
- Gain boost (you could e.g. invent a "solo-gain-boost" effect, which you could set up at this point (with gain/bass/mids/treble) and its automatically activated by every gain value above 0.0)
- Delay boost (a smart combination of feedback and mix increase at the same time, i trust you, you'll do it very good . And every value above 0.0 automatically activates the delay.)
- will affect: "each rig individually"/"each bank individually"/"global"

That would still be pretty slim and easy to use, but still a lot of options for different users.
Personally I think the most important part is the volume boost. If I still need more gain and delay ( or any delay at all) I don't have a problem, switching a few more buttons. But a global volume boost is something I would appreciate!

And to make christmas perfect you could add one knob to your footcontroller, that controlls this solo-boost (only the volume, since its the most important). So if you're in the middle of a gig, in the middle of the heat, you step on the boost, it's terribly loud or you don't hear it at all. A quick kneeldown, quickly turn the knob, problem solved.

I only wonder about one thing: should the boost stay activated if you switch to a different rig? I'm not sure, sometimes I'd say yes, sometimes no.
Or should its status be saved within a rig, so you could make one rig your "solo" patch with it already activated?
Any ideas?

sounds perfect to me, more than i'd have needed, still easy and full powered!

just add a "boost" page in the rig menu with a few parameters:

pre-gain boost
post-gain boost

delay mix
(delay feedback)
reverb mix
(reverb feedback)

realtive values should work best ( + 5 % instead of 30 % fixed)

since in the rig menu this would have to be done for every rig, but maybe you could (must!) be able to set some defaults globally.
i perfectly see that this will be some lines of code to be written, but as i think it's gonna be a new and smart killer feature to be well respected by most users...


edit: to answer the question ck, i'm pretty sure that by the solo-boost request we're talking about is a simple volume bump.
this would do the trick for me easily, but as we're looking for smart solutions here, this superboost might be a go to feature...

Quoted from "ckemper"

Quoted from "Steeldom"

Buttons for boost and fx-loop would be really nice!

+1 for them

I like the boost button idea, we've been discussing it since a long time.

Question is: what is the boost?
1. Engaging a distortion stomp
2. Amp gain increase
3. Overall Volume boost
4. A combination of 1, 2, 3, or even all

How would you assign this to a boost button? Looks a bit complicated. We want easy solutions.

This is where the concept of a "multi" control comes into play.

Take a look at the Eleven Rack where they enable users to assign up to 4 controls per expression pedal input. In this case, where you're asking about choosing between 1, 2, 3, or 4... all of those combinations can be implemented by the user using a multi control setup. They can choose not only the parameter they want to implement, but the range of manipulation of each.

This also enables you to map the boost function to either a button or an expression input. Discrete control for solos, or continuous control via pedal.

I will also admit that while I find the multi-control concept interesting, I've yet to actually program it into my rigs. Primarily because I haven't setup an expression pedal to my midi controller yet, and secondly because the 11R's implementation of multi-control does not implement any type of thresholding for toggling a stomp box on/off - they only implement continuous control.

Quoted from "ckemper"

This "super boost" is a classic case for a rig change, isn't it?

If you play your own music and manly have one solo-sound, yes. If you play covermusic and have a wide variety of sounds, in which you also want to play a solo (you wouldn't want to play a ac/dc solo with a metallica solo sound, would you?), then you'd have to programm a solo-rig for each and every sound you have. "Super-boost" would allow you to take each sound into a solo.

Quoted from "ckemper"

I like the boost button idea, we've been discussing it since a long time.

Question is: what is the boost?
1. Engaging a distortion stomp
2. Amp gain increase
3. Overall Volume boost
4. A combination of 1, 2, 3, or even all

How would you assign this to a boost button? Looks a bit complicated. We want easy solutions.

I know that keeping it simple is gospel @ Kemper, so I'll go for my view X)

I'd love to have a pure volume boost, whose amount is saved per patch/rig. In the KPA a voice would be added to a rig: Boost, where you set a value in dB (nice that this can be negative as well, could be handy).

I see three possible options here:

• Simplest setup: a pedalboard button engages/disengages the option. A LED might be up to mean the current rig has a non-zero Boost value set up.
  
  
• More elaborate setup: at each pressure, the pedaloard button sums the value stored in the Boost parameter. This makes incremental boosts possible. A longer pressure takes back to default.
  
  
• Complete setup: with two dedicated buttons, you can both increment and decrement the boost at each pressure. Holding down any of the two takes back to default.

The last two options could make a dedicated volume pedal less necessary for many (I for one don't use the volume pedal for violin-attack and stuff like that, and this layout would do the job for me), even tho the two options are not mutually exclusive.

Even a "Boost" section in the stack module would be cool.
Two parameters: Gain (pre stack) and Volume (post stack).
This would save me by using two FX slots (both with the pure boost) for a solo boost, since i like to use almost the same eq on many crunch and lead sounds.

This could be easly controlled by a "solo" button on the KFC.