Kemper Amps Forum

Quoted from "ckemper"

I cannot imagine that you will use 8 buttons for effects and a boost in a single rig.

Hi Christian,
yes, I do. I play the Kemper live, I only have 6 Rigs (3 of them with the same amp but other effects and stomps) and switch every "slot" on and off (without the wah, which I put on with the pedal itself) - but the 8th switcher is for the tuner...

It works very well, the whole Cases and Amps stay at home tonight, only the Kemper is on it´s way to the gig - because the Midi Controller makes it as flexible as my other Setup (Elmwood with Midi-Switcher, TC G-Majors Chorus, Delay, Reverbs, Wahs, Boosts, EQs, etc... and the 19" tuner...).

Best regards,
Grüße aus Passau
Mario

Quoted from "kilihahn"

guys, why make it bulky, if it doesn't need to be? button spacing would be the same...

I vote for FX on bottom row.
5 switches in a row to keep it small and portable.
When holding a switch other functions could be accessed, (hold tap, tuner or up/down for looper or other features...)
When in looper mode, other switches function as rec, stop, play, speed etc.
Perhaps some protective bar or raised edges would be good to prevent scratches if switches are near the display.

Quoted from "ckemper"

I cannot imagine that you will use 8 buttons for effects and a boost in a single rig.

Because you're not thinking the way other do. I explain myself:

There's some people (like me) that don't necessary want 500 Profiles and Rigs in their Kemper. They might wish to have less than 10 Rig that will be the 10 Amps we would like to use.

And then the only thing we would need is some good Stomps and Effects we can turn on and off depending what we want, just like we could currently do with regular Amps.

I know it might sound "vey old school" but not everyone play gig in front of thousand of people, with a setlist of songs. During an evening, I don't go to the amp all the time to change settings, I don't try to change the drive of my TS, etc... I just turn on and off the pedals, switch between Amp channels, and sometimes switch from the Mark V to the Fender Twin, etc... but that's pretty much it.

In that case, having the most control on what we can turn on and off is important. That's why

Phil

My point as well

If you use a low number of amps and a good number of fx, creating a patch for every single effect set on or off (and for every combination of them) is not comfortable nor consistent (the possibility to make a mistake in the middle of the song grows IMO, you have to remember where is what).

I think that those who love improvising a lot, like I do (with sounds and fx as well) need a clear way to have everything under their control in the most possible intuitive way. For my mind-style, having all the fx at... foot (LOL) is ideal, and the old paradigm of one amp and a pedalboard made of a series of stomps is winning; with the plus that, when/if you have to switch on/off a number of stomps at the same time, you can create a different patch, from which you can go on switching stomps on/off while using it.

That's why I voted for the fx in the lower row, it makes it easier for me to implement my approach.

I don't think it depends on the audience size, BTW.

A big +1 from me.
Why not have the option of fx in either top or bottom row (user defined)

Quoted from "sheguitarplayer"

A big +1 from me.

So, you also vote for FX in the bottom row?

Quoted from "sheguitarplayer"

Why not have the option of fx in either top or bottom row (user defined)

CK stated that it would not be ideal for the intented labelling of the buttons and would also restrict the use of LEDs

Yep I would go for fx on the bottom row.
I like to 'drop in' a flanger or phaser a la van halen much more often than switching patches.

Current votes:

-FX on bottom row:
MoreK, killihan, Chris Beaver, richaxes, guitarnet70, TMV, vibracore (il padrino), stumcc, sheguitarplayer, HappyKemper
10 votes

-Rigs on bottom row:
DanielRigler, Steeldom, Vitchpat1, schneidas, RAPH, ace, jakeykim, JoeBlob, luntho, imall41(vote changed), Gibson, Froschn, Acker, Zappledan (vote changed), Spid, mDan, JimmyNo, getzzn, y-mun
19 votes

-Neutral:
and44, Guitartone, Stemast (vote changed), Doc (vote changed), BRUNO
5 votes

Quoted from "ckemper"

I cannot imagine that you will use 8 buttons for effects and a boost in a single rig.

What I usually do is that I have the same button for the same effect. That's important for me to keep the overview.

I have one button for the chorus,
one for the autowah,
one for a phaser (for intros and outros),
one booster that makes just louder without adding gain (for gain I play with the volpot),
and one booster that adds treble and cuts bass, wich I have to get able to use the fater or muddier PU positions.

(You see, 4 buttons are not that much.)

For some songs I need special delays, for some tremolo, for some longer reverbs, then I have to store additional rigs for these songs.

The drawback about these xtra presets is, that whenever I maintain my basic presets I need to make the same changes on the copies with the special effects to keep them all the same.

The less buttons there are, the more presets are needed and the more work it is to keep every basic sound mirrored on the copies.

Less important for bands with a certain own sound, but more important for coverbands.