Kemper Amps Forum

I like your suggestions and I agree. right now the star system is not working out too well. Im glad you put some thought into this and posted it. Hopefully CK will take notice of it.

Some nice ideas ...

I would like the browsing to be better - Think of how Native instruments does it's preset browsing on plugins like Massive, etc. it's very easy to sort through mess and get to what you want.
categories like Amp; make/model Gain: clean, crunch, distorted, heavy Style: blues, classic rock, metal, jazz, funk.

So like if I'm looking for a mid distortion rock tone, voila. or a death metal shredfest.


something like that, and then you could see ratings within in those categories.
because if there are 50 profiles of a JCM800 I wanna see which ones people think are good or not.

It would also be helpful if there is a way to see rigs you've already downloaded, especially if rig names are similar for example, have I already tried that JCM800 profile?....

Ok, since this started in a another thread, i repeat my statements...

" Imo, the real problem is the design of the rig exchange as it is at the
moment. When we dicussed the features of the rig exchange a few months
ago before the rating system was available, i already said it and now i
still feel the same way:



A "flat" rating system does not get us anywhere. Why? Because you simply
cannot judge tastes in guitar tones. It may work with drum sounds,
where a certain tonal quality may reflect the abilities of a producer.
But guitar tones? This is so damn subjective that it will be impossible
to satisfy all kinds of guitar players with a certain rig. Not only that
their musical taste may be highly different but also just a different
guitar might let a "pro" rig sound like shit. From my own perspective i
was highly disappointed by the KPA´s factory rigs. Many rock and blues
guys love those tones, but for me a a metal guy, i simply have no use
for them. If i had to vote for them on the rig exchange they wouldnt
have got a nice scoring from me, though they were done by some top
"pros". Now as as the KPA team decided to integrate some my early rigs
into the firmware, many players who have no use for such tones will not
like them. If i was to get bad ratings for this this, might this stop me
from posting new stuff? Of course it would, since nobody really loves
to get criticised.



Even worse many rigs that may be tonal heaven for some users get
"buried" just because they get bad or no ratings by other users who just
have no use for a certain type of sound. This really is a shame and
something should be done about it.



I still suggest to change the rig exchange in the following way:


- remove flat ratings by stars or grades, instead just add something like a "thank you" button for a each rig.

- add music style categories, that the uploader might choose from a drop
down menu. Like "blues, rock, jazz, shred, heavy metal, thrash metal"
...

- allow the addition of comments, to give some hints or something, there
you could also like some soundcloud samples to get an idea of what it
sounds like.

- implement sorting by amounts of "thank yous", music style, uploader, Amp and cabinet brand...



What do you think???"

i personally don't think it's a good idea to overcomplicate the rating system. someone looking for a metal tone will rarely download a vox profile and rate it bad because it doesn't sound brutal ;-)

in the end, "good tone is good tone" and the average given rating of all users will be a clear indication of the quality of the profile, imo. in my experience with the profile's i've downloaded, the rating mostly reflects the quality of the profile. the main problem is that there are still very few people rating profiles, so there's basically just a lack of data for appropiate statistics in the 'star rating'.

i agree with your concept of sorting profiles by genre. one could do this manually by writing it under the profile descriptions, but uniformity would be nice

the 'like' system would simply reflect the popularity of a profile, and i does not give information about how many people tried it and disliked it. therefore, unknown/unpopular profiles could be mistaken for bad quality ones

now what i am missing is being able to search profiles by genre, amount of distortion (hi-gain, crunch, clean) and to sort them by rating.


just my 0.02€

I like buckeyes idea for a direct link to comments about a rig.

Quoted from "tylerhb"

Ok, since this started in a another thread, i repeat my statements...

Yeah, we've already been there. And I had already made some proposals in the style of BuckeyeBrown.
The problem seems that Kemper don't own the code, and they don't seem willing to start a new implementation. Matter of priorities, you know...

A solution might be to look for a different platform with more services. But even so, not sure they would do it now, or in the next future...