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Quoted from "mba"

Of course.

Cliff was using a direct profile or he removed the cab from the profile?
Who knows the profile that has been used?

bmi

Take my advice, forget about it and ignore it, and, stop bumping/discussing it on TGP...you're digging your own grave over there.

This is exactly the kind of stuff that make me laugh soooo much... Trying to scientificaly prove that the obvious is not what you think. It's like if someone very "smart" would try to convince you, with the help of complicate graphics, that Naomi Watts is not really a beautifull woman and that your eyes betray your sense of appreciation because the reality, that you can't see, is that she is ugly. Come on! The KPA sounds good, very good and that's all what I need to know!

Pierre

This really is crazy. And I honestly couldn't care less. I never owned an axe before, i bypassed that fiasco and went straight to the kemper, for good reason (atleast, for ME anyways)


In other news, used my KPA at its first gig last night and it sounded heavenly, "aliasing" or whatever in all. Let me tell you how many remarks I got in the crowd about my aliasing in my tone. Yea, thats EXACTLY what people care about when they are drinking, having a good time, and just listening to a loud kick ass band play live......

So he compares two amp sims that sound like amp sims, and one that sounds like a real amp. And the conclusion is the one that sounds like a real amp is at fault? Does anyone else have a problem with the methodology of that?

Could someone please shove through a 10k test signal through a real SLO at gain and take the output from a hotplate (so no cab) and check what the result should be? I could be totally wrong but I'd expect to see frequency smear given that we're dealing with distortion rather than just pure compression.

Cliff also didn't mention which firmware he's using with the KPA and to be honest the whole thing leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.

The KPA does suffer from aliasing artifacts as has been demonstrated in the other thread, they're audible though when you shove through a test signal, no need for a graph. I hope they'll be fixed soon. But regardless of them the KPA still sounds like the source like a real amp, the aliasing sound itself is a pretty subtle sound that's easily missed (while the chart that Cliff shows tries to make it out like the aliasing is the major component of the sound, which is pretty disingenuous in itself), so while I"m glad that Cliff has done this as I hope that it'll force Christoph to fix it, it doesn't actually impact my use any, and it still just leaves a sour taste in the mouth and makes me respect Cliff less.

Quoted from "VESmedic1"

This really is crazy. And I honestly couldn't care less. I never owned an axe before, i bypassed that fiasco and went straight to the kemper, for good reason (atleast, for ME anyways)

Amen.

I like how their test clip has no guitar tone in it. I really have no idea what that thread is even trying to say. Maybe if I listen to sweeping sine wave tones all day it would mean something.

Quoted from "billruppert"

Quoted from "billruppert"

LOL!

I liked this one:

"So my "Brand D" is doing a better job than my "Brand K" because of less aliasing.
But why to hell does "Brand D" not sound and feel as good as "Brand K"? "