Kemper Amps Forum

this forum is no better than the fractal forum (or any other brand forum) if we keep bashing their products/developers here.

the polite and smart way to handle this would be to ignore these kind of comparisons. show them better

Quoted from "Jimmyno"

don't care about 10kHz signals, since my guitar doesn't produce them

that's arguable. though most overtones are below than frequency range, i can CLEARLY hear the effect of a lopwass filter set at 10kHz after the amp.
however, guitars are mostly a low-pass filter set in this range or even lower when recording. i'll give you that :-)

you're also missing the point since aliasing occurs at other frequencies as well. i guess cliff chose 10kHz since it most conveniently showed the 'superiority' of the axefxII.

Quoted from "kojak_"

if we keep bashing their products/developers here.

I don't think anybody did, what I (and many others) are bashing is an unethical commercial strategy/beheaviour. When you go public with certain statements then you're are exposed to a public critic.

Quoted from "guitarnet70"

I don't think anybody did, what I (and many others) are bashing is an unethical commercial strategy/beheaviour. When you go public with certain statements then you're are exposed to a public critic.

i agree with the public statement criticism part.

still, there are several responses alone in this thread refelct the typical forum fanboy attitude. i won't even bother quoting these.

actually, from what Ive read this morning.
Since cliff did his thing....its now sold about 4 KPA's - because they did not like his approach.
really ironic, but funny

Strange world Eh!
But great for Kemper!

THIS CALLS FOR A NEW SKIN!

Oh, jeez.

Lord knows I did enough Kemper alias benchmarking here recently (search the threads for audio demo links), but at least I was more fair about the frequency ranges I used to test with. Nice to see Cliff baldly state the oversampling rate used by the Axe-FX II (16x), which seems to be apples-to-apples with the Kemper, or at least up to the 1.04 firmware after which corners starting getting cut. Cliff doesn't mention what KPA firmware version he used for his tests.

We've had a few firmware updates since I last ran Kemper aliasing tests (around 1.08 IIRC) but despite the hoopla there haven't been any comments in the firmware revision notes regarding addressing aliasing issues on the KPA so I quit testing them for this.

I hope Cliff's post brings the issue back in to the limelight again, it's not like it's going to go away.

-djh

Oh f.ck. You cannot do that on a European webpage, Chris.
Looking for problems....

... And I found this

"Hmmm. That clip Cliff posted kind of sounds like the one I posted of our new sample rate reduction feature coming in v7.0 .

http://soundcloud.com/adammcook/sample-rate-reduction-rev-2. "

Quoted from "dhodgson"

Cliff doesn't mention what KPA firmware version he used for his tests.

He did mention that every device is equipped with the latest official fw.