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Janne

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Tuesday, August 7th 2012, 6:58pm

Would this work? Line6 Shortboard mkII + Kenton Midi USB Host!

Doing some research for a suitable pedalboard for the Kemper, I was thinking of the Line6 Shortboard mkII since I like the size and the features.
But since it's only sending either its own protocol over the R45j cable or Midi messaged via the USB port, something has do some translation here.



Then I ran into the Kenton Midi USB Host, a small box that will translate midi messages to/from a Class Compliant USB device to standard Midi DIN.



Wouldn't this solve the issue?

(of course, if the KPA could listen to midi over the USB port the Kenton would not be necessary...

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Tuesday, August 7th 2012, 7:41pm

Are you sure is sending midi through the usb?
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Wednesday, August 8th 2012, 7:46am

Quite sure...

From Kentons description:
"Your USB device is plugged into the USB MIDI Host instead of into a computer. It provides MIDI In & Out sockets for USB MIDI keyboards and controllers which have only a USB B type socket. For example, used with a USB-Solo, it allows the USB-Solo to be used in a standard MIDI setup, just like a Pro-Solo. It has a USB Host port (USB A type socket), a MIDI In and a MIDI Out (both 5 pin DIN).
MIDI data received at the MIDI In socket will be sent to the USB device. MIDI data received from the
USB device will be sent to the MIDI Out socket.
The attached USB MIDI device MUST be 'Class Compliant'.
The MIDI USB HOST is powered by a regulated 5V mains adaptor (supplied), and can supply up to
500mA of buss power to the attached USB device."

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Wednesday, August 8th 2012, 8:05am

I think he meant the Line 6 floorboard ;)

If this was possible I would consider this option as well. Ideal would be to connect the line 6 board to the kemper via R45j, but thats impossible I guess...

EDIT: Just found some statements on the line6 homepage:

"We all know the FBV Shortboard MkII can be used to control all kinds of
audio applications via MIDI over its USB connection (if you’re not
familiar with what it can do, check out some of the video tutorials
posted on our Line 6 Support Youtube Channel)"

"Take full advantage of FBV Shortboard MkII with the free and
downloadable FBV Control software. The application shows you a graphical
representation of your FBV Shortboard MkII and lets you customize the
midi commands you send via USB."

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Wednesday, August 8th 2012, 11:42am

I stand corrected, good news!
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Wednesday, August 8th 2012, 2:05pm

I think he meant the Line 6 floorboard ;)

Ahh..! :thumbup:

I know that Line6 have been pushing this as a feature, using the USB to control any Midi compatible application, like using it to start/stop recording in Logic/Pro Tools. Basically anything that listens to Midi control messages can be controlled by the Shortboard.

The thing that makes it possible is that the Shortboard MKII is designed as a 'Class Compliant' USB midi device, so no drivers are necessary.
And that is the prerequisite for the Kenton box to work too.

I've seen a lot of posts were people are controlling non-Line6 stuff via midi, but it has always been either:
Shortboard -> USB -> Computer -> Midi -> device
OR
Shortboard -> R45j -> Line6 Amp -> Midi -> Device.

I guess one could use an old PodXT as a translator too, You could probably pick one up second-hand for the same price as the Kenton box. :D

/Janne

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Wednesday, August 8th 2012, 2:52pm

Or old Line6 FBV or FBV shortboard and an adaptor from rj45 to midi. Pins 7+8 of the rj45 are midi pins 4+5.

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Wednesday, August 8th 2012, 3:03pm

Or old Line6 FBV or FBV shortboard and an adaptor from rj45 to midi. Pins 7+8 of the rj45 are midi pins 4+5.
The problem with the older board is, that it doesn't have the software to program it. Thats a feature of the Mk2 series and in this case it is needed i guess...