2.4.2 release ? without addressing lots of problems ?

  • They just announced 2.4.2 Release .
    No any word about lots of issues which were the reason why most of people get back to 2.3
    There are bunch of posts regarding troubles with 2.4.2 beta -but no yet any official answer .
    Instead , release just has been announced ???


    In my case ,the new cab parameters are useless , where low shift working opposite -increasing low shift make my sound bass-less and flat , decrease of low shift make it muddy .
    Increasing high shift results in high frequency bumble bee sound .
    (with 2.3 everything's fine and as it suppose to be )
    Now I have at least 100 rigs with destroyed sound , since previous cab parameters , which were fine, now are spoiled and useless with the new cab parameters release.


    Yesterday I played few profiles with more than clear Flanger effect , even Flanger is off .


    So what's going on my dear Kemper Team ???


    Are you sure that number of guys which are happy with shorter boot time is bigger that numbers of guys who rather use ears than stopwatch ??


    On the end - one open clear question - do you know about these problems or not ???

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    2006 Steve Vai vwh moded with SS frets and Sustainac 2006 (Japan)

    2008 Fender YJM , moded (USA)

    2010 Tom Andersons Drop Top 2010 (made in California)

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  • OK , I am happy being everything fine on your side .
    But here I am talking about things which are not fine .



    So what about problems than others and my self experience here ?
    Are we not important members of KPA community?


    Would anyone from KPA team be so kind and address it ?

    1988 Branko Radulovic Hand Made Strat in Macedonia (SFRJ)

    2006 Steve Vai vwh moded with SS frets and Sustainac 2006 (Japan)

    2008 Fender YJM , moded (USA)

    2010 Tom Andersons Drop Top 2010 (made in California)

    2017 Charvel GG sig Caramelised Ash (USA)

    2022 Gibson ES 335 2011 Custom Shop Cherry of course ( Memphis)

  • Sorry, can't confirm your errors here. Sometimes it seems to me that not all charges of the KPA are made by the same quality. I'm running a nearly 2 years old toaster without amp and I'm happy with the last beta and release so far.


  • In my case ,the new cab parameters are useless , where low shift working opposite -increasing low shift make my sound bass-less and flat , decrease of low shift make it muddy .
    Increasing high shift results in high frequency bumble bee sound .
    (with 2.3 everything's fine and as it suppose to be )
    Now I have at least 100 rigs with destroyed sound , since previous cab parameters , which were fine, now are spoiled and useless with the new cab parameters release.


    just checked:
    the Shift parameters work in the same way in 2.3.0, 2.3.3, and 2.4.2


    positive values shift the towards the higher frequencies and vice versa.

  • just checked:
    the Shift parameters work in the same way in 2.3.0, 2.3.3, and 2.4.2


    Thanks for the input.


    New cab parameters were introduced in 2.4 , and that particular change was noted by lots of users here ,forcing lots some of the guys to go back to 2.3 , where others liked the obvious change.


    In your case both 2.3 and 2.4 work "in the same way " , which means there is NO change .


    I hope you might want to agree it is very strange, at least .

    1988 Branko Radulovic Hand Made Strat in Macedonia (SFRJ)

    2006 Steve Vai vwh moded with SS frets and Sustainac 2006 (Japan)

    2008 Fender YJM , moded (USA)

    2010 Tom Andersons Drop Top 2010 (made in California)

    2017 Charvel GG sig Caramelised Ash (USA)

    2022 Gibson ES 335 2011 Custom Shop Cherry of course ( Memphis)

  • i think what Cristoph meant was the shift was to the same side relative to the knob being turned (turning the knob up shifted the resonant frequency up, and vice versa).


    As I understand it, the change of the cab parameters was that the knob had a more useful range. The was an unintended effect of that update, which I guess is what people refer to as the "bass bug". That has been remedied in 2.4.2 (IIRC).


    Not so strange after all :)

  • The way shifts work has been changed but the idea remained the same - it is not about level, it is about frequency.
    I believe we've discussed this in your previous thread, actually.


    Anyway, 2.4.2 works great. No flanging, no artifacts, shifts are awesome.

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    stamina requires constant upkeep
    repetition is boring
    and you pay for grace."

  • OK, than something must be wrong on my side.
    Let do some hard resets and things....
    Thanks for the inputs guys :thumbup:

    1988 Branko Radulovic Hand Made Strat in Macedonia (SFRJ)

    2006 Steve Vai vwh moded with SS frets and Sustainac 2006 (Japan)

    2008 Fender YJM , moded (USA)

    2010 Tom Andersons Drop Top 2010 (made in California)

    2017 Charvel GG sig Caramelised Ash (USA)

    2022 Gibson ES 335 2011 Custom Shop Cherry of course ( Memphis)


  • you chose to ignore the second sentence I posted ;)


    "positive values shift the towards the higher frequencies and vice versa"
    you claimed the direction of the parameter changed, which is not true.


    the Shift parametes did change, as was pointed out in the 2.4.0 release notes
    "Cab parameters are more authentic"

  • Good idea Don, I'll do that .

    1988 Branko Radulovic Hand Made Strat in Macedonia (SFRJ)

    2006 Steve Vai vwh moded with SS frets and Sustainac 2006 (Japan)

    2008 Fender YJM , moded (USA)

    2010 Tom Andersons Drop Top 2010 (made in California)

    2017 Charvel GG sig Caramelised Ash (USA)

    2022 Gibson ES 335 2011 Custom Shop Cherry of course ( Memphis)

  • Yes, I have seen users jumping on the "new" cab parameter and stated how good and intensitive they sound.


    The truth is: they have not changed their character at all. They have been that intensitive all the time. No range or direction has changed. Our comment vor Version 2.4 was, that the sound can slightly change from previous versions, when those parameters are not set to zero. This made some people believe we have improved this functions dramatically and toutched the knobs the first time after a long while.


    The parameters were not created to optimize or finetune your sound, they have been made for artificially and drastically altering your cabinet.

  • Just installed 2.4.2 coming from 2.3.3, no sound changes, everything is fine.


    Faster booting time and finally I can use the the official RM (not the beta #4...) and all the other improvements.

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