Can we please get some kind of Kemper Editor Software for your computer

    Quote from Dean_R

    I honestly don't think that's the reason, they can limit the amps and the cabs to what resides inside the Kemper Hardware, could they not?

    Not even that. Just a "Remote Control" for the Kemper would be fine. I don't need the Rig Manager Part integrated (but i'd take it). I'd just like to be able to adjust amp settings, add effects and edit their settings and and maybe some of the system settings. I just hate that i have to use the small display and nested menus for testing all the new and shiny delays we got with 5.0...

    Quote from domsch1988

    Not even that. Just a "Remote Control" for the Kemper would be fine. I don't need the Rig Manager Part integrated (but i'd take it). I'd just like to be able to adjust amp settings, add effects and edit their settings and and maybe some of the system settings. I just hate that i have to use the small display and nested menus for testing all the new and shiny delays we got with 5.0...

    +1 - right on the nose. I have the desire to navigate anywhere on the Kemper menu via something else than mashing buttons and turning knobs. And, I have 46-year-old eyes that would prefer a computer screen over the built-in display. We are all assuming the Kemper will continue to evolve and advance, and with that comes more options and menus, which will only fuel the requests for an editor.


    As for modifying patches not stored on the physical Kemper. To my knowledge, you must be connected to a Helix or Fractal device to get anything done. I don't think anyone is implying this as part of the request here. It's a matter of modifying the active patch that is being used on the KPA at the time of editing would accomplish the task.

    5 years later they dont give a shit isnt it clear they dont care i think its time to quit making these posts people as i just did a while ago its the best device bar none with no editor i put mine as close as i can because they really must not care sad to see so many dissapointed kemper users here admins al least they did the delays do the reverbs now who cares about editor your not going to make one anyways

    [Takes deep breath whilst blue in the face...]


    the fact that the team has neither shut these request threads down nor denied that its working on anything bodes well for the request imho remember that the only comment we have so far was made a very long time ago and was there are no plans for an editor so we know there were no plans back then but that doesnt mean they havent made plans since and for all we know they mightve been working on one for the past year so im actually quite confident well see something in the not too distant future i cant wait

    Quote from Monkey_Man

    [Takes deep breath whilst blue in the face...]


    the fact that the team has neither shut these request threads down nor denied that its working on anything bodes well for the request imho remember that the only comment we have so far was made a very long time ago and was there are no plans for an editor so we know there were no plans back then but that doesnt mean they havent made plans since and for all we know they mightve been working on one for the past year so im actually quite confident well see something in the not to distant future i cant wait

    I love your optimism Nicky :)
    You are right
    Or wrong :)

    Quote from darthwain

    5 years later they dont give a shit isnt it clear they dont care i think its time to quit making these posts people as i just did a while ago its the best device bar none with no editor i put mine as close as i can because they really must not care sad to see so many dissapointed kemper users here admins al least they did the delays do the reverbs now who cares about editor your not going to make one anyways

    we don't know what they give ;)
    the rule of thumb is not to announce your plans in business - just deliver, don't talk about it.
    I also think we won't see editor, but I might be wrong one day ;)
    this is small company and it's limited resources are the reason to put out editor for unknown future
    I think the solution would be to outsource the development of editor to external vendor (group of developers) but it might would require revealing little of Profiler's guts, which is not something you would do, when you have the best digital guitar amp...

    Quote from domsch1988

    Not even that. Just a "Remote Control" for the Kemper would be fine. I don't need the Rig Manager Part integrated (but i'd take it). I'd just like to be able to adjust amp settings, add effects and edit their settings and and maybe some of the system settings. I just hate that i have to use the small display and nested menus for testing all the new and shiny delays we got with 5.0...

    Remote control, remote screen is not an editor as I think of editor. If you want remote control try "Toaster" by @virango - it is 1:1 Kemper's LCD incarnation on your PC/MAC.

    Now with the new multiple delays an editor would make sense.No question about this.


    With growing FX/tweaking capabilities an editor would be nice but then again it comes down to the good old question for us KPA-users..what if (I dont know if there is this "choice") we have to choose between the timetable of Kemper (so now after Pure Cab,morphing and new delays with new reverbs next) and the "danger" that the KPA team will stop with their own timetable for comming upgrades because they will start to listen to the request for an editor which is maybe not included in the current timetable and would absorb all their resources for a very long time;


    For me personally the Kemper-timetable makes sense till yet and gives us musically important upgrades every few months which also work stable without to change the audio of our performances (like we have in the case with the AxeFx updates)..so far so good..actually very good! ;)


    Maybe some words from the KPA team on this issue could help to "solve" this "last big issue" and make things more clear.

    Quote from Dean_R

    I honestly don't think that's the reason, they can limit the amps and the cabs to what resides inside the Kemper Hardware, could they not?

    That would tremendously simplified whole process! You got the point here @Dean_R ;)
    But I always take the most complicated case in consideration.
    User's would like to be able to create "rigs" from any of 9000 rigs, huh?
    If we would limit amps and cabs, to those stored on Profiler, things get much simpler - and quicker.
    Once again, good observation @Dean_R - are you software developer btw? ;)

    Quote from skoczy

    That would tremendously simplified whole process! You got the point here @Dean_R ;-)But I always take the most complicated case in consideration.
    User's would like to be able to create "rigs" from any of 9000 rigs, huh?
    If we would limit amps and cabs, to those stored on Profiler, things get much simpler - and quicker.
    Once again, good observation @Dean_R - are you software developer btw? ;)

    I dabble here and there, in my current company I create alternate more efficient solutions to all of our reporting needs that aren't included in the software packages we use, so I do some business programming. I'm effectively known as the efficiency expert that everyone from all levels come to when they can't figure how to do something, the best thing about that is enabling me to afford a Kemper, getting back to topic.


    Now my understanding is that all these parameters that most are interested in controlling (effect parameters) are midi addressable, so it can't be that difficult to create an editor that can do that. THere's a few editors already out there such as Toast, and there's also another one for those who Use native instrument Reaktor. It's still a puzzle to me why such an editor isn't already out, so I won't speculate, even though I'm good at that also if you have read some of my speculations before :D

    @skoczy made mention to something sensible: if you don't want to develop your own editor, hire an outside vendor that will. I know Kemper has been in touch with another company about making an OEM product, but I'll keep that on the d/l in the event both parties aren't eager to have that discussed. Point being, you have a hell of an expensive device and it almost seems insulting to have no editor when even massively cheaper (albeit inferior) products have no trouble with such a capability.


    ...and do they really have an excuse if other people have shown able to make stabs at it (for free, no less)? I mean, this is a pretty elementary ask. At some point with the endless outpouring begging for an editor with Kemper's radio silence, it just appears that Kemper is telling its users to piss off and it knows best/doesn't want/need it.


    But I want to be wrong. I so want to be wrong.

    I don't mean to pile it on, but the last thing anyone would expect is a musical device not to have some external editor, in this day and age when Mixer's have wifi and are completely controlled by an APP, I don't think it's even too much to expect ability to control this stuff using any smart phone never mind a computer editor.


    Frankly, I also think Kemper would sell more so it's not just a minority that use editors, probably the majority of Kemper users have used modelers before and I can't name one that didn't come with an editor (even if I could name one, that's just one :D ). It's almost the equivalent of buying a car that has no radio or mp3 or music player of some sort., but in that case you can go to some local shop and buy a stereo and have it installed.


    My advice for all the companies that make musical instruments, specifically those that are intended to be used in recording, don't just make an editor, make an editor with some sort VST or any connection to DAWS so that users can call patches from their recording software sessions and edit right then and there Plus saving the preset inside the session.. Eleven RAck inside of pro tools was a great feature, so it can be done inside some sort of VST or AU. Don't just settle for a basic editor.


    This is not fictional stuff, POD Farm, had a dongle in the audio interface and processing was done inside the computer 15 years ago. I don't mind if my whole Kemper hardware turned into some big dongle and I can run triple profiles on three different tracks just like using a plugin . Why not, it can't be hacked, ask line 6 how they did pod farm and linked it to the audio interface...

    I initially didn't want to ask to much, but i 100% agree. I can see where the K Team originally came from. They didn't see the device as a modeler or tinkering device as much, but more like a musical camera. In that sense, not having a editor is passable (maybe). But the reality has shown, that studios (home or pro) around the world use this product in a completely different way and it's time to acknowledge that.
    Having a VST Version (even paid) of a kemper is like a wet dream come true. But since most home studios would skip the hardware altogether with the existence of such a plug in, i don't see it happening. I'd really like changing profiles after recording without having to reamp, but i just settled with the workflow of handling the kemper more like a real amp in that sense.

    Quote from domsch1988

    I initially didn't want to ask to much, but i 100% agree. I can see where the K Team originally came from. They didn't see the device as a modeler or tinkering device as much, but more like a musical camera. In that sense, not having a editor is passable (maybe). But the reality has shown, that studios (home or pro) around the world use this product in a completely different way and it's time to acknowledge that.Having a VST Version (even paid) of a kemper is like a wet dream come true. But since most home studios would skip the hardware altogether with the existence of such a plug in, i don't see it happening. I'd really like changing profiles after recording without having to reamp, but i just settled with the workflow of handling the kemper more like a real amp in that sense.

    Not gonna happen IMO. Having a VST as a software editor/remote to the device, yes/maybe.
    Things get cracked on the Internet, so developing VST Kemper able to work without device is like - "hey, we've developed kick a** technology, please do not try to crack it, we've spent so much time working on it".

    Quote from skoczy

    Not gonna happen IMO. Having a VST as a software editor/remote to the device, yes/maybe.Things get cracked on the Internet, so developing VST Kemper able to work without device is like - "hey, we've developed kick a** technology, please do not try to crack it, we've spent so much time working on it".

    100% True. Since Kemper is making a living of the hardware, i can see why they wouldn't want to give the technology away in software form. But one can dream ;)

    I realize the Kemper team is relatively small, and they have their hands full with all the great updates/upgrades they bring to us (e.g. the OS 5.0 delays...and soon, reverbs :thumbup: ). However, I wonder if @ckemper has considered sub-contracting out to a 3rd party, specialist software/programming company, for the development of a USB-based computer editor for the KPA?

    Quote from Dean_R

    This is not fictional stuff, POD Farm, had a dongle in the audio interface and processing was done inside the computer 15 years ago. I don't mind if my whole Kemper hardware turned into some big dongle and I can run triple profiles on three different tracks just like using a plugin . Why not, it can't be hacked, ask line 6 how they did pod farm and linked it to the audio interface...

    POD Farm was cracked; it could be run sans the USB connection to any L6 gear. Sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings, Dean.


    Personally, if I were CK, I wouldn't risk it, not when the intellectual property's value is, IMHO, virtually-inestimable.