Adding "room" to a tone

Schwarzenyaeger · Sep 18th 2015

Hello,

I have spent the last few months extensively testing the Kemper in everything from amateur to professional audio settings.

The most dissapointing find was that when profiling, the Kemper absolutely kills all reverb and room to a tone. We added a 20 second reverb in the chain and put microphones three meters away and they sounded just as dry as a close mic.

Some mixes just need the sound of a distorted guitar tone recorded half a meter away and I really want this.
I did not find the built in reverb on the Kemper very convincing when going for the depth of a room mic.

Can somebody help me?
Any profiles you know of that feature this trait?

flyingheelhook · Sep 18th 2015

I may be wrong but I don't think reverb is something you can capture in a profile?

CPHfx · Sep 18th 2015

No you can't.
No time dependent things... Also no tremoli, chorus and stuff like this.
Only distortion works...

djemass · Sep 18th 2015

The Space parameter works great for me !

MaximeLajoie · Sep 18th 2015

Good use of the space parameter combined with a reverb that you can tweak all you want will give you that in the room sound. The space parameter is a must especially if you're using headphones to monitor, I have it on on all of my profiles, for recording also.

Ingolf · Sep 18th 2015

Quote from MaximeLajoie

Good use of the space parameter combined with a reverb that you can tweak all you want will give you that in the room sound. The space parameter is a must especially if you're using headphones to monitor, I have it on on all of my profiles, for recording also.

This

Booyah · Sep 18th 2015

Try 2 mics?

Ingolf · Sep 18th 2015

Quote from Booyah

Try 2 mics?

... Yeah, but still this won't achieve the capture of room sound in the sense the OP expects it.

clarkydaz · Sep 18th 2015

the kemper isn't designed to capture the room, close micing is what it was based on

Schwarzenyaeger · Sep 19th 2015

I was not aware of a "space" parameter.
I'll dig it out and try it, thank you very much!

Monkey_Man · Sep 24th 2015

If it doesn't suit your tastes, (the Space algorithm), you can always employ an impulse response-based 'verb plug-in. Practically any IR can do the job if you chop and fade out the tail, either the actual IR audio or with the decay knob most plugs of this nature offer. Just remove the complex reverberations and leave the early reflections.

Obviously, selecting a small or smallish room's IR will work best in this context as the early reflections will give the impression of said space.

Duncan · Sep 24th 2015

Haven't tried it myself, but mean to.

Redwirez offer L & R 'room' and back of cab IR's in their packs so with say 1 full stack printed to trk1 (from spdif out) you could then experiment with printing an additional simultaenous D.I track from an analog output and then re-amp without cab block and add room IR's to that one. Duplicate the D,I track in your DAW to add the additional IR's to create the 3D space and pan as required. Group all track to add any additional subtle global reverb.

Could be an interesting experiment

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