excellent ideas mates, internal loop samples would also be great while setting up the stage before a gig : choose a tone, loop the sample and go where the public will be standing , and hear by yourself what they will hear.
I vote for this idea too !
Universal WAV-Take for Reamping to compare profiles
- hal2000
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hal, there are so many variables in there, you can't really compare that. A huge influence on the sound (the biggest, really) is the way you play. Then, of course you don't play the same guitar that was used for the demos - not the same pickups.
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What joerch is saying is that, again, when you gonplay that rig it won't sound as with the wav file.
just to clarify, I am all in for an uploadable and loopanle wav file. What I do not get is just the fact that it should be played by someone else.
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Easy answer, folks. Perhaps you didn't catch my edit:
EDIT: Obviously, if room were available an appropriate number of User slots could house our own custom phrases... using our guitars, which'd be even more amazing for those who own good ones.
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Your idea is pretty stellar, Monkey Man, and if it isn't doable directly in the KPA, then surely it could be incorporated into Rig Manager? Hit play, then select Rigs at random in your library or from the Exchange, using Autoload.
If anyone's interested, I wouldn't mind making a DI wav file. I'm not the world's best guitarist, however.
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Thank you, SamBro'!
I love the RM idea for two reasons:
1) It could be used to name and send the files to the KPA.
2) Should the KPA not be able to accommodate the RAM requirements, our Macs / PCs surely would.Option 1 would be ideal, IMHO; that way the audio wouldn't have to be re-sent via the USB connection every time we "arrow" to a new rig, thus ensuring we maintain the snappy auditioning process we're accustomed to and love so much.
I very much hope the Team likes this idea, not least because the only way I've been able to "efficiently" audition lots of rigs in a sitting is to have my lil' brother ("Fingers") come over and grind out his "SlashTones" hour... after hour... no funk... after hour... no jazz... after hour... LOL
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Thank you, SamBro'!
I love the RM idea for two reasons:
1) It could be used to name and send the files to the KPA.
2) Should the KPA not be able to accommodate the RAM requirements, our Macs / PCs surely would.Option 1 would be ideal, IMHO; that way the audio wouldn't have to be re-sent via the USB connection every time we "arrow" to a new rig, thus ensuring we maintain the snappy auditioning process we're accustomed to and love so much.
I very much hope the Team likes this idea, not least because the only way I've been able to "efficiently" audition lots of rigs in a sitting is to have my lil' brother ("Fingers") come over and grind out his "SlashTones" hour... after hour... no funk... after hour... no jazz... after hour... LOL
LOL indeed!
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Yeah, he's my brother (25 years younger than I), so I didn't want to sound harsh.
Slash is his thing, which isn't unusual for someone his age. I've been on a long-term mission to expose him to fusion, jazz, funk etc guitarists in the hope that it'll eventually rub off / sink in.
This audition feature has me excited, even 'though I acknowledge that there's not much chance of its being implemented, as I suggested before, because it'd be like having a pro guitarist play appropriately-styled and finessed riffs whilst I tweak my heart out. It'd be so conducive to tweaking that said activity would actually be something I'd look forward to and power the Kemper up for!
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Hehe I was the same at that age (just swap Slash for Megadeth...).
The more I think about it, the more the first option seems totally possible; the flash memory used to store the loops recorded using the Looper could be the cache for RM to upload to.
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I thought that too, but then wondered whether or not said memory resides in the Remote itself.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but: Couldn't the looper be used for that? It's inside the KPA and it records waves. I had assumed, that you can tweak a profile while the looper is playing. This is at least, what the POD can do. Then, all we'd need is a way to place that recorded file on a usb stick and then upload it to RM/RE (edit
and to import them from an usb stick into the looper.Damn, I have to find the time to dig into the KPA deeper, anything else is guessing I guess... sry for that^^.
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I get how you're thinking, 'loogie. It's a matter of degree and depends upon how critical the corrupted code is.
Where along the sound-creation / manipulation chain does / do the error/s occur? Are they FX-block anomalies or ones central to the tone-creation engine (amp block principally)? Are errors being introduced at the input-conversion phase, the A/D stage?
Errors in any of these example areas could conceivably alter the sound but not bring the unit to its knees. The same goes for display errors, although they'd obviously not alter the sound.
Our DNA code could provide an analogy here - errors produce disease (the sound of my KPA isn't quite right), and as they accumulate (my KPA definitely sounds rank), they eventually reach a critical point where mission-critical functionality is lost (my KPA blew up). Crude analogy, but you get what I mean.
Another might be CD/DVD reading - errors are corrected through basic parsing codes, but when they eventually reach a critical point where said codes can no longer reconstruct the data, the disc is useless.
I hear you, Monkey. But I haven't heard of any other digital music device that out of the box sounds different from another model of the same type. I'm aware that the KPA is one complex machine on the inside, but I would have expected it to simply not to work, if something is wrong with any of the internal digital stages. Then again I'm far from being technically delighted, so...
That being said, I now wonder, if my KPA is sounding as good as it should? And therefore want that feature now
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Maybe I'm missing something, but: Couldn't the looper be used for that? It's inside the KPA and it records waves. I had assumed, that you can tweak a profile while the looper is playing. This is at least, what the POD can do. Then, all we'd need is a way to place that recorded file on a usb stick and then upload it to RM/RE.
Damn, I have to find the time to dig into the KPA deeper, anything else is guessing I guess... sry for that^^.
That's possible of course. But what hal is looking for is a test-recording, that can be used to evaluate, whether the profiler's sound is okay. ... The only idea I have to achieve something like that would be that sellers of profiles, who have samples on the websites, would also provide the wav files that you could feed into the KPA to test it.
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I thought that too, but then wondered whether or not said memory resides in the Remote itself.
I don't think so, otherwise people using other midi controllers wouldn't be able to use the looper (which is unofficially supported).
@hal2000 Thanks, but I'm never going to be a very good player, as I just don't practice enough! As much as I want to, life just seems to get in the way...
@Fireloogie You can indeed tweak profiles whilst the looper's playing, but then we're back to the quandary of one man's guitar and playing not being equal to another's and therefore not being able to error check a profile/profiler.
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Deleted this post as I had responded to something said way back.
Turns out the page hadn't fully loaded - I have a bad connection tonight.
Sorry about that.
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Edit on my post on using the looper for that:
Not only would we need the possibility to save recorded waves to usb sticks, but also of course the possibility to import them from an usb stick into the looper. Sry, forgot this above, otherwise it would not make any sense for the thread. But that way we could exchange any recorded file for that purpose.
