Lock mode is awesome! But in Performance mode I'm frustrated with it...

Actually, you setup your performance and store it. Afterwards, you turn locking off and go to the gig.

Locking is actually "prevent rig parts from loading" function. It does not make sense to store it in a rig or performance.

The idea of "lock" is to keep a particular effect, block, whatever on or off and on a particular setting all the time. It's really great for my case, where I have an FX loop that I always want xon in the X slot. Other good use cases are a boost always on in Stomp A, a compressor always on in the X or Mod slot to level out your sound a bit, or a standard reverb that you want to use across all presets.

For your case, however, my best suggestion is two-fold:

1. Once you have the effects you want to use dialed in for those rigs, hold down the stomp button, and save a preset of those stomps. Same with the fx. I forget the exact steps to saving and loading, but you can save and load your entire block of settings in one sweep. Bear in mind, though, that tweaking settings on one performance slot's stomps does not save those same effects to other performance slots, so you'd have to save, and load on all the others. Then, of course, save your performance. You can turn your locks off at this point, because the effects on your performances should now all be identical.

2. Then, using those performance slots as your "base" sounds, copy the slot to a new performance (copy with the slot selected, paste with the new slot selected), turn on or off the effects you do or don't want, and save it. A lot of people have it set up so Performance 1 might be your "clean" sounds. Performance 2 are your "crunch" sounds, etc. Once these are built out, in rig manager, you can build out a comprehensive set list simply by copying and pasting your "base" sounds to individual songs or however you want to lay it out.

Yeah, it's not ideal. But the only other option is to use some sort of MIDI controller that has a Kemper Slave mode. The RJM Mastermind series does this, but they are pricy (though they are excellent). This way, you can set up your presets in a similar way, except on the MIDI device, which would then tell your Kemper "hey, I want my clean sound, but turn on stomp A and stomp B."

Unfortunately, most digital devices in the same arena as the Kemper (Line 6, Fractal, ElevenRack, etc.) work under the premise of presets - you set a preset, you can turn things on and off on that preset as you wish, but move to a new preset, and you have a new sound altogether.

The only other recommendation I can think of is to move to using standalone effects units (rack or pedals, whatever works) and run before the Kemper or in an FX loop (or both). My setup involves several overdrive pedals, a wah, and a volume before the Kemper, and a Strymon Timeline and Strymon BigSky in the FX loop. Using my RJM Mastermind, I can keep pedals on or off (using an RJM Mini Effect Gizmo, mounted under my pedalboard), and, with the Strymon stuff, turn on or off and change or keep the preset, even when switching around different settings on the Kemper. My rig is much less portable than I'd like, but it works well, especially if you know the sounds you like to use and how you want to handle everything. I tend to think of the Kemper as an amp head with a couple built in tone-shaping effects, not an all-in-one unit, but I'm different than most. It's just been a good experience for me.

You could also try, instead of going between a "clean" and a "edge of breakup" sound, using an overdrive stomp with a really low gain setting. This could get you a similar kind of effect, though I understand if you really want to use a particular amp model for a particular setting.

If you're using a MIDI controller and the same amp profile across all rigs, just with a different gain setting, you could also use the MIDI controller to adjust the gain level on the fly. You could set up different buttons to set the gain to be at certain levels, or use an expression pedal and have complete control of how gainy you want it.

No problem - I was just trying to help you find a solution based on what you might have or might not have available to you. I think the idea of a set of performances utilizing some sort of "shared effect" functionality is what you're looking for, and, yeah, that would be really cool. It'd be nice to have something along the lines of saving an effect, and having an option to use it as a "reference effect" or "shared effect" on saving, with the option to lock it's state on preset change. This way, loading up that "shared effect" will adjust any profile using it if you make a change to a parameter, and lock its on/off state across any preset using it. From a programming and user experience standpoint, you'd have to go between two presets with that preset enabled; otherwise, flipping to Preset 1, turning that "shared effect" on, then going to Preset 2 where that effect isn't present, then Preset 3 where that effect is - keeping that on or off would be a point of contention.

Either way, that BigSky - you'll love it. I've got that and a Timeline on my board (you said you have a Timefactor, and those are equally as great too), and they sound amazing. They far exceed what the Kemper's native delays and reverbs do by miles. But I get what you mean about having a compact setup. I almost miss my Line 6 X3 Live for that very reason.

This gives me ideas....
How about an option for a different kind of locking behaviour in Performance Mode?
Locking would only be present within a performance but not in another.
This could be very useful.

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How about an option for a different kind of locking behaviour in Performance Mode?
Locking would only be present within a performance but not in another.

What does speak against to just store a performance?
Against what should the locking do its work in that context? You want to distribute stomp settings within your performance? Well, do it, remove the locks and store. Done.

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What does speak against to just store a performance?
Against what should the locking do its work in that context? You want to distribute stomp settings within your performance? Well, do it, remove the locks and store. Done.

That defeats the original purpose of the request. OP wants to switch between multiple performance slots and have pedals stay on or off, regardless of the slot's settings. But only in a subset of performance slots.

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That defeats the original purpose of the request. OP wants to switch between multiple performance slots and have pedals stay on or off, regardless of the slot's settings. But only in a subset of performance slots.

This. It is indeed different from storing a performance.

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How about an option for a different kind of locking behaviour in Performance Mode?
Locking would only be present within a performance but not in another.
This could be very useful.

That is just what I need!

THis is what I am facing. I have my performances as tailored to what I need during a performance. Everything is level and sounding perfect, the only thing I need to do is raise or lower the master volume.

My questions is I want to lock the performance characteristics for each performance so the only thing that can be manipulated is the master volume. I don't want somebody of stage to have access to anything other than the master volume.

How can I apply this concept??

I would not touch the Master volume, since it just influences the signal you send the mixing desk. Better IMO to set it once and for all in order to get the best headroom.
Why not simply balancing the volumes across rigs?

Also, how do you mean anyone having access to your Profiler's parameters? By physically touching it?

yea, by touching it. But what I was trying to convey was I have my rigs balanced and an equal volume. To increase the overall volume of my output I use the master volume. I think I am confused…lol

If you "lock" entities on the Profiler, what you achieve is that the current fx and modules will be kept when you change rig, regardless rhe new rig's settings. It does not prevent parameters to be changed through the GUI.

OTOH, if someone edits your current rig during the interval w/o saving it again, it will be enough for you to switch to a different rig/performance and go back, you'll find your sounds as saved (except for Master volume and any global parameter). You can also check the Undo Button: when lit, it tells you that something has been modified in the current rig/performance.

As for the master volume: what are those changes meant for? Doing a solo or lowering the level for a rhythm for example? Or in order to subsequently adjust the output to perfection? There might be advisable approaches dependingon your goal.

I am using the master volume to raise to overall volume of the show. Dependent on venue of course. I have all performances leveled and ready to go and have been using the master volume to raise or lower the overall volume. However, I used the volume knob to level out patches or performances, I have also used it to adjust the signal at the output. This way no clipping on any profile and everything gets balanced. I don't want to accidentally bump, twist, move or adjust that volume knob and only use the master volume for overall volume differences.

Ah yep, makes sense

Quote from Ingolf

This gives me ideas....
How about an option for a different kind of locking behaviour in Performance Mode?
Locking would only be present within a performance but not in another.
This could be very useful.

Anybody know if this got implemented or if there's a similar solution?

I'm in the same situation and this idea would absolutely fix my problem.

I bought a Kemper a week ago and this is exactly what I need too so I really hope for an update like this. (It should really be an easy software fix.)

I've been using a 4-channel amp (for 4 different characteristics and gain levels) in combination with a Helix for FX.

The FX have been programmed as one default preset + individual song presets. Every preset has the option of turning individual FX on/off in that preset and the amp is switchable 4 buttons for the channels + master volume level A/B and reverb on/off.

With a more flexible lock-function I could basically achieve all that with the Kemper and remote.

So, what I hope for is a function of "lock per Performance" or maybe even "lock a chosen group of slots" in a performance.