Monitor Cab off Question

digbob · Jan 4th 2016

i tried a real Guitar cab today for monitoring, turned the mon cab off on, all ok.
My Question is why do i hear changes in Sound when i alter the parameters in the Cab section ??
are these changes to the cab driver which is active when turning cab off pn ??
thanks for help
happy new year

viabcroce · Jan 5th 2016

No, you should not hear any difference with Cab set to off. This has already been noticed.

Maybe entering the Cab's parameters by holding the corresponding button momentarily switches Cab on again... Are the tweaks kept when you exit the Cab section and it's switched off again?

40661d4ade5602bab6d4c5f085c0e61f79738f31 · Jan 5th 2016

Was it a studio or merged profile?

digbob · Jan 5th 2016

Quote from viabcroce

No, you should not hear any difference with Cab set to off. This has already been noticed.

Maybe entering the Cab's parameters by holding the corresponding button momentarily switches Cab on again... Are the tweaks kept when you exit the Cab section and it's switched off again?

i definitely hear the high shift parameters and low shift and cab vol when altering them with cab mon off.
when i leave the cab section the mon cab off is still active and the altered sound stays, so these cab parameters
work with mon cab off
any other ideas ??

digbob · Jan 5th 2016

its a studio profile

40661d4ade5602bab6d4c5f085c0e61f79738f31 · Jan 5th 2016

Quote from digbob

its a studio profile

So it seems logical to me, because when pressing cab off, the seperation of amp and cab is made virtually, not like a merged profile.
Try to do the same with a merged profile, alterning cab settings should make no change in sound with it.

digbob · Jan 5th 2016

but i understood it this way with studio profiles ( "The standard profiles" ) i can turn mon cab off and use my
guitar cab as monitor without the cab and on main outs i have the cmpl rig inkl cab, there i can , when needed
alter the cab parameters just for foh, but it will leave my mon out with the guitar cab untouched, that makes sense.
i every time il alter my for out it changes my mon out with cab off too will not makes sense for me

unclemar · Jan 5th 2016

I have a powered rack and I also am a little lost when it comes to monitor on/off,studio/ merged profiles,,,, could we get a schooling for someone in the know?
Thanks so much loving this Kemper,,

viabcroce · Jan 5th 2016

In a merged profile the amp section has been profiled by itself (save the DI's influence on sound), so when you switch Cab off you hear the amp profiled via DI, no guess\estimation by the OS.
When you use a Studio\traditional profile and you switch Cab off (either on the Monitor or globally), the CabDriver function (automatically engaged) algorithmically calculates how the profile would sound without the cab.

40661d4ade5602bab6d4c5f085c0e61f79738f31: no, this is a bug (already reported). Excluding the Cab section (either exactly or via an estimation) should kill all the Cab functions and parameters.

digbob · Jan 5th 2016

so at least its bug that the parameters work with studio profiles, right ?

viabcroce · Jan 5th 2016

This is my POV, when the Cab is switched off.

pamplemousse · Jan 6th 2016

i guess such change in the sound comes from other cab settings than the volume, cause cab volume is also linked to the amp volume

digbob · Jan 6th 2016

as i wrote
high shift and low shift works in the cab section
with mon cab off

pacocito · Jan 24th 2016

Yes. Even when using Merged profiles. If it's already reported, I'll just wait.

lef38 · Jan 24th 2016

With the monitor output , set to cab off, I hear a change whenever I turn the cabinet on / off.

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