Real Wah Or Kemper Wah?

Quote from johnboy10

Should I get a real Wah or should I use the Kemper Wah?

My biased opinion is go the Kemper wahs.

Many benefits like lower noise, less pedals to futz with (providing you need a mod pedal anyway for other things such as volume), being able to employ different models with different rigs and so on.

Quote from HCarlH

I was not totally happy with the Kemper's wah until I tried out some of the settings
in this Wah thread:
Kemper Wah Settings

Great to hear that it helped you out, Carl!

Quote from Eltzejupp

Yes, search for Nickis (monkey man) threat about wahs. You can download a lot of wah presets and there are realy some gems.

Thanks for the plug, Frank!

I'm really not that scary 'though.

Basically you bypass the wah circuit and just use the potentiometer. There are some designs on line so I just copied that, I think it was the one below:

http://www.strymon.net/strymon…our-own-expression-pedal/

It's kinda reversible but not easily. For example I removed the switch as well because I use touch and putting that is would be a pain.

I bought a cheap one for about £30 so if it went wrong then I could bin it...in the end I also spray painted it "Kemper green" so it match's my remote and its fine for my purposes..

For convertional wah users ( for interest) I also converted a regular crybaby to true bypass, touch, led activation and upgraded the fasel...it was pretty cool!

Thanks for sharing!

I used to have a Dunlop wah GCB-95 but with an expression pedal(like my Boss FV--500H I don't need an adapter and thus no power outlet. Another advantage. True, it not gives you always that real soemtimes wanted agressive wah-sound but it's a good deal. And quite since Monkey Man added some great extra varieties to choose from (thanks Man!).

Still I have a question. My GCB-95 has an on/off swtich by pressing the pedal: a really wah bypass. My Boss expression pedal is missing that. So on page 2 I choose for Bypass@heel or Bypass@toe. But both leave me that wah ending sound: low or high. This way my original sound stays coloured, affected. Is there a true bypass after a wah-solo?

Vaguely related - I have a Morley Bad Horsie touch wah pedal, the neat thing being that it's normally off, but the moment you hit the spring-loaded treadle it fades in so you can put the effect on individual notes. Is there a kemper equivalent? I'd quite like to replace it, but that's mostly because it squeaks and writing a patch on the kemper is easier than finding where I left the WD40...

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So on page 2 I choose for Bypass@heel or Bypass@toe. But both leave me that wah ending sound: low or high. This way my original sound stays coloured, affected. Is there a true bypass after a wah-solo?

If the wah does not bypass at heel when set to "bypass@heel", or does not bypass at toe when set to "bypass@toe", calibrate your pedal.

Or, set it to "Bypass@Stop".

I reckon Bypass@Heel's the schizz...

Quote from Monkey_Man

I reckon Bypass@Heel's the schizz...

I use Bypass@Stop

I found that reinstantiation of the "effect", voluntarily or otherwise, was guaranteed to never be too abrupt, if at all, when it's forced to occur in the low frequencies, Paul. Hence my preferring the heel option.

Accidental touching and therefore ignition of the wah, especially if high Q settings are at play, can result in a most-unwelcome, abrupt switch to an obviously-knarly tone, depending of course on the position it was left in when the wah switched itself off and also the notes or chords being played at the time it flicks back on.

Just my take on it. You've probably got much more control than I as you've got many years of experience with these things, whereas I've only MonkeyFutzed™ with wahs for probably 5 to 10 minutes in my life.

I use bypass@stop as well - swings and roundabouts, yes potential abrupt on and off but you definitely know its disengaged.

Mr Nicky Monkey Man...you are truly a genius....I downloaded your wah settings...so much better than the stock ones....I now have no doubt that the Kemper Wah is as good as a GCB-95...I love it!

Thank you V8, but I cannot take any credit mate!

The settings were gleaned from this thread of Don Petersen's:

Need Help Setting Up Your Wah in the Profiler? Do You Own a Rare Wah? Let Me Know.

... and also from Mauritzio70's mega beginner's pack, taken from the "Stomp" folder in his "Shared folder" he shared years ago, and obviously from the RE and any other settings folks choose to share in my, Don's or an other thread.

So, the bottom line is that I'm just the klutz who sweats over maintaing the list, programming the presets by entering the parameter values and naming them, and then updating the zip file by doing the Kemper USB Tango™ as poofessionally(!) as I can. I'm truly honoured to have been allowed to play this role as I love to feel as if I'm helping someone... anyone!

So glad you've found them useful, V8! That really is great man. https://www.kemper-amps.com/fo…Wah-let-me-know/?pageNo=1

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So, the bottom line is that I'm just the klutz who sweats over maintaing the list and updating the zip file by doing the Kemper USB Tango™ as poofessionally(!) as I can. I'm truly honoured to have been allowed to play this role as I love to feel as if I'm helping someone... anyone!

I also installed your wahs. Cudos! Makes life so much easier. Great sounds on an instant.

(BTW: what about fuzz boxes? Is there a good emulation of Jimis fuzz face? Did I miss installing something?)

Could be something I'll look at down the track, Spinner.

For now it's the wahs 'cause there seemed to be a demand for them.

Quote from SpinnerDeluxe

Is there a good emulation of Jimis fuzz face? Did I miss installing something?

No idea, brother. Hopefully somebody in the know will chime in...

Quote from Monkey_Man

Thank you V8, but I cannot take any credit mate!

OK, well you can take credit for pulling them together and providing a zip update anyway, they are top, so thanks to Don and other contributors as well...we should do more of this.

I just downloaded PaulTS talkbox and that's ace, particularly the pedal controlled one!

@V8guitar Thanks!

Bumping an old thread - I recently purchased a Moog expression pedal - it seems to only work as a volume even if I have a wah in my chain.

How do you configure it to work as a wah?

Quote from tomjonesrocks

Bumping an old thread - I recently purchased a Moog expression pedal - it seems to only work as a volume even if I have a wah in my chain.

How do you configure it to work as a wah?

Settings menu

Quote from tomjonesrocks

Bumping an old thread - I recently purchased a Moog expression pedal - it seems to only work as a volume even if I have a wah in my chain.

How do you configure it to work as a wah?

I will tell you that I have that pedal and the travel is too long and the response is pretty slow to really use it well as a wah. It just doesn't really feel right. It's great for volume for that same reason though. Just FYI.

J