Kemper 2 expectations

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Just because the technology exists doesn't mean it will force YOU to use it. You can use whatever you want, and let others do their thing.
It's like when the Evertune bridge came. I saw in forum threads posts like "Oh my god not in MY Les Paul" like they actually were afraid of it.

I love all the following modern stuff:
Evertune = keeps my guitar in tune all times
Digital amps directly to FOH = fast setup times
Automated patch switching via MIDI = all focus on playing and stage presence instead of having to find the right foot control

And soon we're getting ourselves an In-Ear Monitoring system that will have its own mixer so we can carry our exact monitoring sound from gig to gig, and basically we shouldn't even have to soundcheck, just plug our stuff in and make sure the FOH tech gets a good sound out to the audience, while we already have our monitoring stuff set a long time ago.

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I think that's what I was trying to say.. i.e. agreeing with Sharry that things are progressing but that the basic needs may not go away quickly.

I hate tap dancing, but I also I can;t see myself playing to a click track just yet - my timing is too bad :). In the same way I think ( but don;t know 'cos its not gonna happen) I would ever rely on a guitar tech to change sounds for me...sometimes you need a bit of flex...but hey, I'm an old duffer

BTW Evertune concept is great...who would not want to stay in tune...

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I think that's what I was trying to say.. i.e. agreeing with Sharry that things are progressing but that the basic needs may not go away quickly.
I hate tap dancing, but I also I can;t see myself playing to a click track just yet - my timing is too bad :). In the same way I think ( but don;t know 'cos its not gonna happen) I would ever rely on a guitar tech to change sounds for me...sometimes you need a bit of flex...but hey, I'm an old duffer

BTW Evertune concept is great...who would not want to stay in tune...

If only Evertune could make an adjustment between standard and drop tuning.

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If only Evertune could make an adjustment between standard and drop tuning.

Hey, on the issue of bending with Evertune guitars, I found the definitive guide:

https://evertune.com/faq/faq.php?FAQ_ID=FAQ01003

... and back on topic.

I feel that when the Kemper originally came out, it was years ahead of the competition.

It still is now, but the gap is noticeably smaller.

The Kemper 2 needs to change the ballgame altogether again. I would be most interested in seeing if there are improvements to the profiling process.

Don't know what these would be, maybe multiple profiles across different gain stages and settings of an amp in order to create a complete clone of the amp. That would be a biggie for me.

I agree that any improvements in the profiling area - I saw a few problems with profiling amps with noise gates?

Profiling pedals I think would be a big step for those who love Tube screamers, OCD's etc..

Lots of people want dual amps too so I think thats useful

I hope they redesign the toaster to have a more, convection oven kinda look LOL

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I feel that when the Kemper originally came out, it was years ahead of the competition.

It still is now, but the gap is noticeably smaller.

The gap is almost non-existent. In the last 2 years I've sold a number of unpowered KPAs on Reverb and have never had a problem getting ~$1500 for them. I'm selling one now and I can't get an offer over $1250, with most $1100-1200. Insane...

But it's a little more evidence as to the KPAs perceived value -- or lack thereof.

This is a long way of saying the KPA2 (or new firmware) better "bring it."

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Mixing from stage becomes quite impossible when the mixer can't be located next to you .... like if you are one of the front men. Making small changes between songs, or even within a song on a tablet that is mounted on your mic stand is really the only option IM

With a FOH engineer I only need to handle my own monitor/IEM and a tablet is fine for that. I also use a tablet for mixing when space is an issue, but for 90% of gigs I do have space for a full-size console beside me. Granted, it won't work for a vocalist front-man, but that has never been my role.

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For a KPA foot version, I just can't see having the massive number of controls on the front of the KPA today.

Sure. The floor-model was not on my mind when making the comment

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Sure. The floor-model was not on my mind when making the comment

That makes sense then

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The gap is almost non-existent. In the last 2 years I've sold a number of unpowered KPAs on Reverb and have never had a problem getting ~$1500 for them. I'm selling one now and I can't get an offer over $1250, with most $1100-1200. Insane...

But it's a little more evidence as to the KPAs perceived value -- or lack thereof.

This is a long way of saying the KPA2 (or new firmware) better "bring it."

Not sure what the KPA2 could "bring" to actually make the product worthy of a new design cycle.

Sure, the price of an existing model will decline with age; however, this is usually due to the fact that once the engineering and development cost is paid off, the company usually starts lowering the MAP on the product to increase sales further.

When I purchased my KPA, I believe that MAP was ~ $2200 for the non-power amp rack. A quick look around the web now shows MAP has been reduced to ~$1800. It is understandably difficult to sell a used item for only 17% below the price of a new one.

The X32 mixers were originally released at >$3000. MAP is around $2000. It doesn't mean that the product can't hold its own any more, it simply means they are selling more units for less money to maximize profit.

Well, seems like a Kemper 2 (or some type of hardware revision) is NOT out of the question like some of you think:

It made me happy to hear Mr. Kemper say that he is interested in component profiling, which will definitively require a hardware upgrade. Looking forward to whenever that happens (hopefully not too far off).

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Well, seems like a Kemper 2 (or some type of hardware revision) is NOT out of the question like some of you think:

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It made me happy to hear Mr. Kemper say that he is interested in component profiling, which will definitively require a hardware upgrade. Looking forward to whenever that happens (hopefully not too far off).

Mr Kemper is so accommodating in this video! I love it! Look at the amount of time they took to set up!

I wonder what he thinks of all the grubby users on this site always clamouring for "more, more, more"!

Thanks for being so cool, Mr @ckemper!

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Well, seems like a Kemper 2 (or some type of hardware revision) is NOT out of the question like some of you think:

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It made me happy to hear Mr. Kemper say that he is interested in component profiling, which will definitively require a hardware upgrade. Looking forward to whenever that happens (hopefully not too far off).

12:24 future of Kemper, where Mr Christoph also talks about upwards compatibility
16:20 new overdrives on horizon
19:30 Kemper profiling itself = for example EQ, Overdrive in profile, to be profiled for new profile to free up a slots - nice idea!
24:20 talk about editor, no estimates so far

Great stuff - I'll get new Kemper on day one, when/if it's available. It's one of the very best guitar hardware I've had over the years.

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16:20 new overdrives on horizon
19:30 Kemper profiling itself = for example EQ, Overdrive in profile, to be profiled for new profile to free up a slots - nice idea!

Thank you and you're welcome LOL
I was super nervous and kind a started rambling and repeating myself haha very cool peeps!

I'll be excited to buy a kemper II, with the engine, relatively speaking, on steroids. But, I must say, today's version is really awesome.

Me too. But honestly, I’d prefer to swap out the processor for added functionality. I don’t need more hardware connections, just a bit more flexibility inside, such as grouping effects presets in to a single stomp or fx slot (for less compromise where number of effects are concerned). I for one don’t hope for endless routing possibilities since in my experience the greatest tones have come from relatively simple signal chains. That even includes David Gilmore on the Animals tour. Mind-blowing, simple guitar tone elevated by a singular musical voice.

Also, I hate the idea of a landscape littered with abandoned Kemper “1”’s.

ymmv

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Me too. But honestly, I’d prefer to swap out the processor for added functionality. I don’t need more hardware connections, just a bit more flexibility inside, such as grouping effects presets in to a single stomp or fx slot (for less compromise where number of effects are concerned). I for one don’t hope for endless routing possibilities since in my experience the greatest tones have come from relatively simple signal chains. That even includes David Gilmore on the Animals tour. Mind-blowing, simple guitar tone elevated by a singular musical voice.

Also, I hate the idea of a landscape littered with abandoned Kemper “1”’s.

ymmv

Don't think there's a danger of that. With reverbs coming, I think if anyone is discarding of a Kemper 1 at a throwaway price, I will jump on it. My biggest demand at this point is stereo profiles. If the cost of buying a Kemper 2 is more than a Kemper 1, it's a dead simple decision.

Of course, that's assuming there isn't some kind of fundamental change to the Kemper. I'm not sure what that would be. I, for one, am glad that the processing power is more than I thought it was. The damn thing runs on love for all I know!

Does someone knows what year was Kemper released?