AX8 vs Kemper in High Gain Comparison

More bottom in the AX8, more mids and presence in the Kemper.

The Kemper is more defined!

Definitely prefer the AX8 here.

Both sound good. It sounds like they are using different cabs.

You know you can profile your AX8?

I prefer the Kemper in this case, it sounds more like an actual amp to me and less of that DI/Sim slightly fizzy sound. However I'm sure you could bring it more into line with the AX8 version if you prefer that with a more aggressive mid-scoop, possibly with an EQ in the X slot.

It has to be said that the AX8 is a more "modern" sound, perhaps because people have come to use sims a great deal more in heavy rock ever since Tool, and to me this exemplifies that particular set of tonal characteristics. It's aggressive, very forward and much easier to mix with as there's less competing with the vocals or other mids instruments.

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You know you can profile your AX8?

there is a batch of AX profile that just appeared on rig ex. Sounds really like a modeler gear, with either generic or caricatural amp tones , that may suit some needs and be easy to mix , but the amp feel is much better with the KPA.

Both sound great, prefer the AX8 by just a tad, more body and rounder tone on my speakers. But i really love the punch from the first Kemper tone.

Huh, I was listening to the AX8 clip, and thought it was really good, and I would probably prefer it (given that it's a bit of an unfair comparison for the Kemper). And it seems like more here do. But I think I liked the Kemper better, for the same reasons as listed above, and I think it will sit better in a mix. But the AX8 has a real nice snappy bottom end to it. Both are great.

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You know you can profile your AX8?

I prefer the Kemper in this case, it sounds more like an actual amp to me and less of that DI/Sim slightly fizzy sound. However I'm sure you could bring it more into line with the AX8 version if you prefer that with a more aggressive mid-scoop, possibly with an EQ in the X slot.

It has to be said that the AX8 is a more "modern" sound, perhaps because people have come to use sims a great deal more in heavy rock ever since Tool, and to me this exemplifies that particular set of tonal characteristics. It's aggressive, very forward and much easier to mix with as there's less competing with the vocals or other mids instruments.

That's interesting, I did not know that Tool was an early adapter to sims. That's pretty cool.

What? A genuine discussion with good fair points regarding Ax8 and the kemper? No bitching or moaning (moaning is worse than bitching)
Whats is in this beer, am i in the right place? Unbelievable

Since i am on the 2 amp sound journey atm, i put one on left and the other on right, to my surprise it did not sound bad, but both left/right with the kemper sounded better to me, would prob leave more room in the mix that way too (just guessing) seemed more raw amp sound to me..but then again like always no gear or rig sounds better, its just what works best in the end result, whats wrong with using BOTH in the mix, nothing. I still have plenty of Tim's (live Ready) Axe rigs he did.
I use them and i am allowed as although its the axe, its still a kemper rig

Ash

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kemper sounded better to me, would prob leave more room in the mix that way too (just guessing)

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But I think I liked the Kemper better...I think it will sit better in a mix.

Great minds Ash, great minds.

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(moaning is worse than bitching)
Whats is in this beer, am i in the right place? Unbelievable

ROTFLMAO

Well, to me both sounded good.

It was a strong start with that Uberschall on the AXE.

I think my favorite overall was the Kemper Uberschall one though.