Heres a link from Damian Greda that should help:
KPA DAW SAVER > A little plugin that can save current rig with your DAW session.
Saving a Profile in a DAW session for recall
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Exactly. Plugins need to be updated and tested with constantly changing operating systems.
Sysex is just a quick burp of data that can be recorded into any midi track.A very common scenario is creating a demo for a project before getting the green light to create the full length track. Just saving the name of the profile doesn’t take into account any changes I might have made to the patch while tracking. Trying to keep Rig Manager organized by project, session and specific track would be a nightmare. It’s hard enough keeping the DAW sessions organized with multiple variations and revisions.
My Virus C has long been discontinued but still sounds amazing and wakes right back up to where I left off by using a Sysex dump of patch data. Burp it and I’m ready to go.
Ex-actly.
I don't know if those apart from you realise that we're talking about the edit buffer here. What this means, non-GuavaDudes, is that you can tweak 'til your heart's content and simply send the sysex "blip / burp" after arming the receiving MIDI track and hitting record. No need to save the Rig; it's immortalised as sysex.
Sorry - I wasn't implying not using the Kemper for many years. I just don't see the need to call up a 15 year old session and expect it to load without any issues. That is an exaggeration in my book - but it's just IMHO.
I repeat: Digital Performer loads 34-year-old sessions with zero issues. That's no exaggeration. 15 years is nothing. My 250+ songs that're waiting in the wings haven't been opened since first converted from ATARI back in the '90s. If I'd had a Kemper with sysex functionality back then, all Rigs used would've made it across to the Mac as MIDI tracks within the MIDI files I exported from CueBalls on the ATARI.
See the power of what we're talking about? We're talking 24 years and project conversion from a sequencer on ATARI to a DAW on Mac, and all Rigs would've made it fully-intact. No plugin in history has or could survive this journey.
So once again, 34-year compatibility for DP and 24-year-old projects of mine, my entire "catalogue", are not exaggeration or fantasy; they're my reality, man.
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Sorry I wasn't clear (again). It's great to that it loads. I just don't need it to. I'd rather have daily convenience. But that is for another thread as stated so I'll leave this one.
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Hey, I do think that your request is legit, FWIMBW mate.
As you said, for convenience now; I just tend to think long-term with these things 'cause projects, as I've learned the hard way, can sometimes take years to complete.
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The point is that SysEx is an established, simple, well-documented and well-supported format. If the Kemper could import/export its settings via SysEx, this thread would be over because basically any DAW could work with it.
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as i wrote in my reply to you in the ticket system: please use the feature request section of the forum which we provide exactly for this purpose to promote your ideas.
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I tend to create a performance with the sounds for the song, and name it ...err....as the song !
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I tend to create a performance with the sounds for the song, and name it ...err....as the song !
That's a great approach for a live gig but a less than ideal approach for production and session work where you can be working on several different tracks a day with LOTS of parts.
So every track you record, you're going to save a tweaked profile, which are often variations of the same amp. So now you have hundreds of similarly labeled rigs but still don't know which ones match up to which recorded tracks. And to complicate matters you're going to create Performances of these "songs" but is it the first or the fifth revision you've done for the client? And you're just going to keep all that organized in the Kemper? Errr...good luck.
And just recreating your entire client/session/tracking workflow in Rig Manager won't work either because you can only have two nested folders! I'm also not seeing a way to grab my currently edited profile from Rig Manager. What I'm trying to avoid is having to SAVE every single profile I use for every single track in every single song first in the Kemper or RM.
Being able to store a snapshot of the currently edited buffer in the Kemper in the DAW is the way to go. It's why synths all have sysex patch, performance, bank, multi, and ALL options available. It lets you get right back to where you were at a later point in time without having to save the patch first.
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I think this thread should be merged with the new one.
Guava and I have spent a lot of time presenting our argument and personally I'm not keen to repeat myself there.
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Have you considered using the snapshots feature in the Kemper? Then use the timestamp in the snapshot to identify which snapshot was used for each track. You only need to log the timestamp in the project in the DAW I would think.
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I wonder how the ToastME obtains a full snapshot of the settings when it connects? Maybe leech on that via midi yoke or something. Could be totally off though.
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Way above my pay grade, MM, but it's an intriguing thought.
Have you considered using the snapshots feature in the Kemper? Then use the timestamp in the snapshot to identify which snapshot was used for each track. You only need to log the timestamp in the project in the DAW I would think.
You'd still need to first populate the Kemper with the Rigs present at the time of the snapshot/s, wouldn't you Daan? IOW, x number of months or years down the track when you try to rework the project, you'd have to have the Rigs stored somewhere in order to be able to send them to the KPA, which brings us right back to square one.
