Swap / Move Effects

Excuse this post if it was already asked, and if so, please let me know where... I searched but couldn't find this topic and I'm new to both the forum and my Kemper (about a month).

Is there a way to move stomp / effect slots - essentially reordering the signal chain? I know there is a copy / paste, which I believe works if I want to move from Effects slot 4 to 1.

But, let's say each slot is full. Can I move one slot with the other, to re-arrange them into a different order?

Thanks

I found the way to do it for Stomps, but what about Effects? Holding down the Effects button doesn't give the same "move" interface" that the Stomp area has