Rig Manager 3.0 Editor

  • Look around for a used M-Audio midi-sport 4x4. I believe the drivers are still available for it. Works well on my iMac.

    If you use FRFR the benefit of a merged profile is that the cabinet is totally separated in the profile.


    For my edification only... :D Kemper/Helix user

  • Unfortunately my interface doesn't have MIDI. I only have the 2I2 for now.

    same here... a while back I was (entusiastically) ready to delve into the wonderful world of toast and MIDI and was pricing new interface units when word of the editor came along... with the word being that it would be released 'this summer' I figured it would be better to wait for the 'official' editor, rather than going the toast route... not pointing any fingers or placing any blame but had I known then what I know now the choice would've been entirely different...

  • i honestly don't need an editor so bad I need to buy new stuff just for it. I also refuse to use anything made by Apple.

    Thats why I said get a used one. But you don't need it so nevermind. ; )


    BTW- why the hate on Apple?

    If you use FRFR the benefit of a merged profile is that the cabinet is totally separated in the profile.


    For my edification only... :D Kemper/Helix user

  • I had a quick question about the Toast program to edit on the Kemper. I am legally blind and its very hard for me to see the Kemper screen so editing on my Mac would be the only option for me. I thought i could just use the stock profiles until the editor came out but i really want to start editing on it.


    Is it worth getting? Can i fully adjust the kemper settings with the app on my Mac if i bought a midi device? I am not familiar with midi at all or the app and just wondering if its worth it? Does it have many bugs? is it hard to setup?


    Thanks guys!

  • I had a quick question about the Toast program to edit on the Kemper. I am legally blind and its very hard for me to see the Kemper screen so editing on my Mac would be the only option for me. I thought i could just use the stock profiles until the editor came out but i really want to start editing on it.


    Is it worth getting? Can i fully adjust the kemper settings with the app on my Mac if i bought a midi device? I am not familiar with midi at all or the app and just wondering if its worth it? Does it have many bugs? is it hard to setup?


    Thanks guys!

    At this point I'd say it's definitely not worth going down the MIDI rabbit hole, especially if you're going to have to spend money, 'cause the Rig Manager v3 editor component/s will be in the app any minute / day / week now.


    Seriously mate, just hold on a little longer; it'll be worth it and you won't have to learn a new app (Toast ME), only to switch back to Rig Manager when it's ready.

  • Do you have priviledged information about the release date ?

    No, vjau.


    What I said was IMHO logical given that the app is in the final stage of pre-beta-release testing. Why would one learn a new app and spend money on a MIDI interface under these circumstances?

  • What I said was IMHO logical given that the app is in the final stage of pre-beta-release testing. Why would one learn a new app and spend money on a MIDI interface under these circumstances?

    The app was to be released "in a couple of days" a couple of months ago. So who knows ? It could land next week or at next winter Namm.
    There is also the possibility that the first iteration of the editor will have less features that ToastMe.

    An usb to midi cable can be bought for 15 euros. That's probably less than most Rig packs.

  • I'm with vjau75 on this one. For the people needing an editor it is a no brainer to just get a cheap midi cable NOW and stay in OS 6 to be able to use ToastMe.


    Having it doesn't only make easy the tweaking but helps a lot in understanding all the parameters of each module and section of the KPA. You have them there visible and easy to access.

  • BTW- why the hate on Apple?

    There are a few reasons, first off I don't like that you can buy their product and be told what software I can use simply because they have not had the chance to review it. I used own a computer store as well and even though I had all of the IT credentials to work on PC, I could not even look inside someone mac without voiding their warranty. The company I currently work for has a contract with them to allow us to backup their OS for restoration purposes and they will not even give us access to enough code to do it correctly. Couple those issues with their declining quality since the passing of Jobs and you have a product and company that I choose not to give any of my money to.

  • I wouldn't bet on any date for the editor beta other than maybe "somewhere in 2019 or 2020".


    Now if I really needed an editor atm, was on OS6 (well, not sure how much is "broken" with the new OS and toast me), midi cable or interface money wasn't a big cost for me, and there'd be no other alternative devices giving me what I needed already, I'd go that route for sure.


    It's just that Kemper doesn't get used much atm. It's what tends to happen for me when some alternatives are available. I'm sure that when editor comes out the unit will get more play again, but getting used to some really good editors + how much more efficient I can be, current requirements + how close the tones are = yes, a good editor becomes important.

  • Besides, it's at least thinkable toastme offers some functions official editor does not (and who knows if it will later on). May buy midi cables again for that reason alone, later on. Just not sure how toastme is affected by OS7.

  • There are a few reasons, first off I don't like that you can buy their product and be told what software I can use simply because they have not had the chance to review it. I used own a computer store as well and even though I had all of the IT credentials to work on PC, I could not even look inside someone mac without voiding their warranty. The company I currently work for has a contract with them to allow us to backup their OS for restoration purposes and they will not even give us access to enough code to do it correctly. Couple those issues with their declining quality since the passing of Jobs and you have a product and company that I choose not to give any of my money to.

    so they control their software, which helps their bottom line AND saves people from getting hacked. Unlike windows.


    well done Apple. Most of the people I’ve seen who hate on them either want to tinker and can’t, or don’t have certs which can easily be taken. And yeah I’ve got a bunch of IT certs also so I get the work that goes into studying for them, but if you want to play you’ve got to have skin in the game.

  • Most of the people I’ve seen who hate on them either want to tinker and can’t, or don’t have certs which can easily be taken.

    I just don't like the interface etc. Apple drives me mad and can't get on with it. Hate my work iphone.


    Not saying windows or android is perfect but seems way more logical ( back button etc.). Bought my wife a mac for her birthday and she gave up with it in weeks.


    They are also now behind with the Iphone ( in my opinion) - I've had wireless charging, dual cameras etc for years.


    Anyway, just me, not looking to start a one is better than the other, get enough of that in my house!...and my future son-in-law is an IOS developer...