I'm really curious how the speaker will sound and if I'd only start using direct profiles and leave all studio and IR's behind me
+1
I'm really curious how the speaker will sound and if I'd only start using direct profiles and leave all studio and IR's behind me
+1
One passive and one powered for me.
Same to me. Being able to run a stage-sound in Stereo with my powered toaster.
Ha! I put myself on the list in Sep 2017...you?
As for the Kone, it only seems like three of us here are planning on buying it on day 1. I'm not hearing much hype about it anywhere else. Also lots of discussion about other recent FRFR/cab purchases by users here, don't know why anyone would buy anything until this is released and reviewed. Oh well, too bad for them
4 of us....I want one as I have a powered rack so unpowered version will be perfect!
I will buy purely for the colour
Seriously, Kemper have not let me down sound wise so I will prob take the risk anyway...just depends on price on how quickly I get one...
As for the Kone, it only seems like three of us here are planning on buying it on day 1.
Five.....ME. It, along with the speaker imprints, is the ONLY thing I care about right now. No editor, no stage thingie....I want to use anything other than a powered monitor.
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I hope they have black corners instead of brown tho
7.
The powered version will definately be on my shopping list
Maybe I missed it...
What will be the impedance of the Kone Kab... 4, 8, or 16ohm?
Since the Celestion F12-X200 is only available in 8 Ohm, I assume that the version modified for Kemper also has 8 Ohm.
I am curious when there will be an update for the Kemper Kone. It took a very long time until the Celestion F12-X200 was finally on the market.
And the long announced Friedman Celestions are also a long time in coming.
Is this similar to the Powercab?
Is this similar to the Powercab?
No.
From the 2019 NAMM recap with news of the Kemper Kabinet:
QuoteDisplay MoreThe Kemper Kabinet has been developed during the last two years, especially for the KEMPER PROFILER™. The Kemper Kabinet is a combination of a distinct Loudspeaker (the Kemper Kone) and an extensive speaker tone mining technology developed by Kemper making it possible to digitally „imprint“ various speaker characteristics onto one single cabinet.
The Kemper Kone is a 12“ full range speaker which is made by Celestion and exclusively designed for KEMPER™. It is controlled and driven by the KEMPER PROFILER’s DSP to an ultra-linear (full range) frequency response, using a dedicated DSP algorithm. In contrast to the conventional idea of a full range system, the radiation pattern of the Kemper Kone has been narrowed towards the physics of a classic guitar speaker chassis, so that even the full range sound carries a distinct guitar speaker character, unlike regular PA speakers or monitor speakers.
By simply activating the PROFILER™’s well-known Monitor CabOff function the Kemper Kone is switched from full-range mode to the Speaker Imprint Mode, which then exactly mimics one of 16 classic guitar speakers. The sound of these imprints should not be mistaken with the mic‘ed cabinet simulations of a Profile. They rather bring back the good old “amp-in-the-room” sound.
Among the imprints, you will find the finest choice of well-known guitar speakers from Celestion™, as well as rare and particular speakers from other manufacturers like Oxford or Goodmans Audiom. We think of adding more speaker imprints via a future software updates.
Since the intelligence of the speaker lies in the DSP of the PROFILER, you will be able to switch individual speaker imprints along with your favorite rigs, without needing to do extensive editing. Whenever you switch to a full-range sound, for an acoustic guitar, for example, the Kemper Kone will switch to full-range mode automatically.
The Kemper Kone can be driven by the power amp of a PROFILER Head or Rack, as well as by utilizing any external solid state power amp. Even driving two cabinets in stereo is possible.
Due to the digital features, the Kemper Kone and Kemper Kabinet work exclusively with a PROFILER.
In addition to the passive model of the Kemper Kabinet, we have plans to offer an active Kemper Kabinet as well. Further, we will offer the Kemper Kone as a replacement speaker for any regular kind of 1x12”, 2x12” or 4x12” guitar cabinet. All digitally controlled features are applicable to all kinds of cabinet configurations once the Kemper Kone is driven.
Pricing and availability yet have to to be announced.
The Powecab works with any modeler.
The Kemper Kabinet is designed to work specifically with Kemper rigs, as an integral part of the rig.
Display MoreNo.
From the 2019 NAMM recap with news of the Kemper Kabinet:
The Powecab works with any modeler.
The Kemper Kabinet is designed to work specifically with Kemper rigs, as an integral part of the rig.
It sounds very similar to the Powercab based on that. It may be better and optimised for the Kemper but aside from that it sounds like a very similar thing, but passive.
Sorry, but it sounds very similar to the Powercab. Just for Kemper only.
It’s similar, but Powercab doesn’t work with the amp to emulate specific speakers. What the Kemper does is different from normal IR loading. Which is what the Line6 does.
All of the processing is in the KPA. Besides, I’ve not heard stellar things re: Powercab.
Sorry, but it sounds very similar to the Powercab. It may be better and optimised for the Kemper but aside from that it sounds like a very similar thing, but passive.
Whoops, you edited your original post while I was replying. I think you corrected yourself. Indeed, the Kemper Kone will be a viable solution for alternative digital modelers/amps...but yes, it is specifically optimized for the Kemper, and the Kemper's software (upcoming OS) will be specifically optimized to work with the Kemper Kone.
My guess still is that CK brewed a magic potion to emulate the sound af a speaker without the mic component (to get that out of the equation)
Meaning we can all use direct profiles instead of IR's (cab+mic) to get the amp in the room sound we all seem to "miss"
Raf
My guess still is that CK brewed a magic potion to emulate the sound af a speaker without the mic component (to get that out of the equation)
Meaning we can all use direct profiles instead of IR's (cab+mic) to get the amp in the room sound we all seem to "miss"
Raf
I use a cab...
I’m not sure but I don’t see many direct profiles about that people recommend.
My guess still is that CK brewed a magic potion to emulate the sound af a speaker without the mic component (to get that out of the equation)
Meaning we can all use direct profiles instead of IR's (cab+mic) to get the amp in the room sound we all seem to "miss"
Raf
Which is also what the Powercab is doing.
My guess still is that CK brewed a magic potion to emulate the sound af a speaker without the mic component (to get that out of the equation)
Meaning we can all use direct profiles instead of IR's (cab+mic) to get the amp in the room sound we all seem to "miss"
Raf
My thought is that Merged and Studio Profiles would be preferable - that way, the Main Outputs can provide a mic’ed sound to FOH, without needing to put a mic in front of the Kone.
Which is also what the Powercab is doing.
CK's design completely leap-frogs what the Powercab is doing. Being able to throw the speaker into any cab is the selling point, the speaker should just produce guitar frequencies and let the REAL cab fill in the rest. Can the Powercab model a pine cab with birch baffles and an oval back? How about 100% void-free OS birch and a closed back? If you can't tell the difference between the two, perhaps the Powercab is right for you
Please don't make me eat my words, CK