He must have found the clean he was looking for and hasn't stopped playing in order to reply to all the help.
Favourite clean profile? Struggling!
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modern high gain sounds and bright sounding clean sounds have one thing in common - strong cuts in the midrange.
therefore quite a few modern high gain sounds (like the ones in Lasse Lammerts Rig Pack for example) make surprisingly good clean sounds if you just turn the GAIN all the way down.
For modern High Gain are you recommending to roll back the mids knob on the eq? And are these tweaks happening pre or post Stack?
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For modern High Gain are you recommending to roll back the mids knob on the eq? And are these tweaks happening pre or post Stack?
not really.
the way the EQ was set on the amp is part if the Profile already.
Of course you can use the EQ to alter the sound of the Profile, but with a high gain sound you usually want more surgical precision, like the Studio EQ offers, post STACK.
Use a high Q value, boost this band a lot, scan the frequencies for the offending area and turn down the boost to make it a cut.
Fine-tune Q and cat value by ear.
This takes quite a bit of experience btw.
Note that the STACK EQ can be switched between pre and post amp.
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DonPetersen Can I buy a 6 pack of your favorite beer and bring my kemper by your place and dial this in together HAHA!
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DonPetersen Can I buy a 6 pack of your favorite beer and bring my kemper by your place and dial this in together HAHA!
anytime!
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anytime!
I would actually do this but I live in Hawaii. I see how a lot of big artists usually get together with specialists that help them set up there elaborate rigs and I wonder what I'm missing out on with the kemper sometimes because I just don't know what it really capable of. In any case, I'll take the great recommendations you and others have been making and keep at it.
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I find cleans the hardest to get on the Kemper. Edge of breakup & gain, sounds incredible. Cleans sound rather 'woody' and dull to me. Any tips on profiles would be awesome!
The best tip I can give you on getting sparkly or defined cleans is simply to disable the Cab section. My favorite clean profiles are those without a Cab.
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The best tip I can give you on getting sparkly or defined cleans is simply to disable the Cab section. My favorite clean profiles are those without a Cab.
Exactly what a lot of the 80s guitar sounds were based on. Direct to desk with no cab.
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Exactly what a lot of the 80s guitar sounds were based on. Direct to desk with no cab.
weren't those guitar -> DI box -> desk?
as in: no amp involved?
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Correct weight, Don, as I'm sure you already know.
ColdFrixion's "method" would in theory add a bunch of character, so I do wonder why the guitar -> DI -> desk combination was the preferred method back then, or at least, the only one we tend to hear about.
Could it be that they wanted a minimum amount of harmonic content so as to provide the "cleanest-possible" starting point for the inevitable chorus and delay FX? Rich harmonic content coupled with all that FX action might've proved too-complex, making it trickier to mix without drawing too much attention to itself, methinks.
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Rich harmonic content coupled with all that FX action might've proved too-complex, making it trickier to mix without drawing too much attention to itself, methinks.
I don't think it was a chosen as a solution to a problem - I think it was more of a cutting edge modern sound (for the time) that complimented the newest synth sounds. In addition to the '80s songs with DI sounds and JC-120 sounds, there plenty of others with harmonically rich chorus and delay sounds.
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Out of curiosity, any examples of this sound you guys can refer me to?
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Funk examples include Kiss, by Prince, and many Nile Rogers guitar parts.
Here is a very '80s Pop example of that kind of sound:
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Here is where to find my favorite Kemper rig for that '80s clean sound:
The legendary Trichorus clean 80's sound as used by Landau, Huff, Luke, etc - now with tune
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Thanks!
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Correct weight, Don, as I'm sure you already know.
ColdFrixion's "method" would in theory add a bunch of character, so I do wonder why the guitar -> DI -> desk combination was the preferred method back then, or at least, the only one we tend to hear about.
Could it be that they wanted a minimum amount of harmonic content so as to provide the "cleanest-possible" starting point for the inevitable chorus and delay FX? Rich harmonic content coupled with all that FX action might've proved too-complex, making it trickier to mix without drawing too much attention to itself, methinks.
Could it be that it was just quicker and easier to plug straight in than rig up and amp and find a load box to stop the valves frying
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I thought of that, Alan, but these were big, expensive studios.
At the very least they would have had amps permanently set up for this uber-popular sound had the M.O. called for them.
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I know. And to be fair a lot of those tracks are Steve Lukather whose rig at the time had a bunch of heads into a Bradshaw loadbox before driving his FX then hitting a separate power amp so it would have been easy enough. I’m sure other top studio guys would have been using similar Bradshaw type racks at the time too.
On the other hand time is money in those studios and just plugging straight into the desk is about as quick as it gets. Reading Lukather’s autobiography just now. He say’s they regularly cut two full tracks including overdubs per day from a standing start (i.e. they had to practically write the songs and come up with all the hook parts etc on the fly). Those guys were really working!