Xitone FRFR active wedge ? ?

I am very curious about the Xitone active FRFR Wedge. Who has one ? tell me about it.

I have been on the waiting list for the Atomic CLR Neo MK II for months . I need a decent FRFR Cab NOW !

Anyone using an Xitone FRFR active wedge ? . . Tell me about it . Thanks

I did not see where to do a search , I'll look again .. Nope, I did not see where very many are using he Xitone stuff , However , most who are satisfied with their gear usually no longer have a reason to be in the forums !

Quote from dmatthews

Hi Dave... Dave here...

I don't have the wedge, but I do have the MBritt 1x12 powered cab.

It is built like a tank, and sounds great. I love that I can remove the back panel for open/closed back situations.

yea, I looked at both the MBritt sig and the wedge that uses the same Celestion driver. From what I gather , those do produce a very nice , but colored sound and only handle 200 watts. Which is probably plenty of power. I am actually looking for another alternative to the Atomic CLR Neo MK II with a more flat response so I do not have to do as much EQ Tweaking . The celestion driver, from my understanding, has some extended high end that is hard to dial out, that is not a bad thing , just not for me. Hell ! The GRFR wedge weighs only weighs 30 LBS. I almost jumped on that one for that reason alone ! Speaking of MBritt, his profiles . . . . my Kemper would be useless with out the MBRITT profiles . I gigged for three months with just his sample pack ! Finally bought about $100 more of them.

There are right ways and wrong ways to do things, I say Dave's way is always my option !!

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That was my 1st YOUTUBE !!

I have ordered the Xitone FRFR active wedge . Just waiting for my order to be completed & shipped.

Quote from MuddySludge

Dave, let me know if you're playing around Houston.

I'll be playing at Mo's Irish Pub 23511 Katy FWY, Katy TX 77494 June 27th (Thursday night 9 till 1) I will be playing with Doc Holiday band at Saddlebacks in Sealy Sat 8 to 12 June 15th

Quote from Tritium

Hi Dave,

I assume you are the JD Miley from The Gear Page. I was the guy who recommended you look into XiTone. My username over on TGP is Deuterium. Congrats on your purchase, and I really think you will be very pleased and satisfied with the XiTone. I have the passive wedge, because I own a powered Kemper rack. There are more than a few XiTone owners, here, on the Kemper User Forum.

Cheers,

John

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Yes John , that is me ! I went ahead an ordered the Xitone FRFR. I should get it in about a week to 10 days. My reason for the FRFR instead of the GRFR or the MBritt sig cab . . . I can buy the Celestion driver that goes in the GRFR or the MBritt cab for $90.00 and switch it out for a different flavor if I need to.

Playing live, the 1st thing I noticed using a separate FRFR cab instead of running my Kemper in the same floor Monitor mix with everything else, the separation made everything cleaner , clearer, and fuller sounding while being able to turn the over all volume down on both. Everything is just a little less garbled and a clearer. I never thought I would be playing on something like the Kemper and really liking it . . . but I am ! Though I love my real tube amps and pedals , none of my top shelf pedals sound like, or as real, as a cranked amp profile . My SRV tone is a cranked tweed deluxe profile , not a Tube screamer ! I use only about five MBritt profiles with different gain settings to get all my basic sounds. Matchless JJ, Fender Tweed, 3rd power Black Face , Dumble and a Marshall. Thank you very much for your recommendation on the Xitone ! I have heard absolutely nothing but positive comments/feedback on the Xitone stuff so far.

I got the Non -powered Kemper Rack on purpose. Mainly because of all the other power amp options out there that are light weight and might sound better . . . such as the Matrix , or even a Tube power amp such as the Fryette PS2 . Another thing I noticed when running the Kemper through a tube power amp and regular guitar cab . . . all the amp profiles did not sound all that different from each other . . espeasually on the High gain amp sounds. The true amp personality comes out way more obvious through an FRFR Cab. Maybe a really good tube power amp into a passive FRFR cab . . . may be the ultimate ?? . . or at least worth a try ??

Quote from BobWalters

Here is something interesting for the DIYers.    After a review of the Dayton Audio (DA) PPA800D pwr amp from Parts Express. vs the Xitone pwr amp. They appear to be the same plate amp. The PPA800 has a DSP shaping function, capable of shaping and compensating for most cab/speaker deficiencies via the USB port. Xitone most likely had DA preset the DSP for their cab and had no need for the USB port.

Something to consider:

Xitone FRFR Active Wedge ~ $899

Dayton Audio PPA800D ~ $279

Eminence Beta-12CX ~$85

Eminence PSD2002-8 ~$75

cab/wedge materials ~$200

Total ~$640 + free labor

I am not advocating either selection, just illustrating the options for anyone interested in a DIY frfr pwr cab.

Currently I use either a Headrush cab or a Thiele cab loaded w/ an EVM12L, depending on the gig.

Cheers.

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I am not really good on DIY> I am on some things , but I doubt i could build a cab worth a darn. However, I did order the Xitone FRFR active wedge rather than the GRFR or the MBritt sig cab . One main reason is I want a more Flat response to make it easier to match what my Kemper in doing FOH. The Other reason is, I can buy the Celestion driver that is in the GRFR or Bitt cab for $90 and switch them out for a different flavor. Though I doubt I will actually ever do that. Any decent active FRFR cab I can use as a wedge or backline will do me fine. The Friedman ASM is just too bulky and I did not really like the ASM10 . If I really like the Xitone when it gets here , I may not be interested in the Atomic CLR Neo MKII anymore.

Quote from Tritium

Hi Dave,

What you have noticed is to be expected. A guitar cabinet contributes roughly 70% of the over-all tonal signature, in an amp-cabinet system. In other words, if you play various tube guitar heads through a single, specific cabinet, you will get a lot of "sameness", since the cabinet imparts so much of its character upon the resulting tone. Conversely, if you play a single, specific amp through various and sundry guitar cabinets, you will get widely different sounds.

The same exact phenomena occurs when you connect a KPA to a traditional guitar cabinet. It may still sound great, but you lose a lot of the individual character and sonic uniqueness of specific studio amp/cabinet profiles. As you are aware, this is exactly where a FRFR-type monitor shines. It will faithfully reproduce the KPA profile of the reference amp/mic/cabinet system. So, a Fender Bassman sounds like a Fender Bassman, a Morgan AC20 sounds like a Morgan AC20, and a Marshal 1959SLP through a 4x12 Greenback sounds like (etc., etc., you get the point.)

My next research topic will be the AXE FX III . It seems Fractal has made some substantial improvements on their clean amp sounds since the last time I tried one of those. Though I am very pleased with my Kemper , I would really like to play an AXE FX III and sample the cleans . I am already sold on the Overdrive amp sounds. I tried an AX FX about 7 years ago. I liked everything about it except the clean amp sounds. And on that note, that is why I gave up on Channel Switching amps years ago. In the late 80's early 90's I had a hell of rack rig. Egnater IE4 preamp (The red One) and a mesa 2:90 power amp. That rig got as close as I ever have been to having really decent cleans and killer overdrive Mid to High gain amp all under one Hood. The Kemper has proven to be better than that rig was . I am also curious about the Synergy stuff. All these last three years some killer amp technology , Cab sims, IR's has surfaced with some very impressive break throughs . A guitar buddy of mine has an interesting rig , He has a 2015 Friedman BE 100 . He called me the other day bragging about his addition of a Syngery Module with DLX . Claims it gave his BE 100 a much better clean channel . For much of the last 20 years I have been very used to hearing what ever amp rig I use mic'd up and blowing at me through a decent floor monitor . . . just as much , or more so, than the amp it's self. So the transition to the Kemper was fairly easy for me to get used to. To have an amp rig that only takes up three or four rack spaces with FX and all and one or two Light weight cabs and it sound 99% like the real amps is my Goal. I am sooooo close to that with the Kemper !

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Thanks for the comments . I have my cab on oder now.