Detuned sound with an expression pedal

azertyvince · Mar 6th 2023

Changing tone is not continue and i hear it.

We can not play like a guitar tremolo.

Finally · Mar 7th 2023

Sorry - I still can't understand. 🙁

azertyvince · Mar 7th 2023

Sorry for my bad English.

Detuned is not continuous in the pedal pitch effect.

It's impossible to play with this effect through an expression pedal, to play like a guitar tremolo (mecanic vibrato not the tremolo effect).

lbieber · Mar 7th 2023

Don't know what your particular issue is, but the pedal pitch effect is continuous in the same way that a Whammy efffect pedal is. The manual states it on page 220 and it works that way for me.

With that said, I suspect that using a pedal to emulate a mechanical vibrato will not sound good for several reasons. You are using a pedal which is not the same as manipulating the bar with your hand. I think you will also have a less than desirable result if you want to vibrato a chord. A mechanical vibrato will result in different pitch alterations for each string while the pedal pitch will alter them the same harmonic distance. This won't sound natural, at least it doesn't to my ear.

dfdfan · Mar 8th 2023

I have the spring loaded mission which can essentially do half of this using the whammy on the kemper. It would be cool if mission or someone would make a spring loaded up/down pedal controller like this with that center detent. Of course if they did, Kemper would need to code for that center spot. There might also need to be some compensation algorithm created though as a true vibrato system doesn't bend every string in the entire chord at the same tension. Unless you have one of those old steinberg transtrem thingys.

azertyvince · Mar 11th 2023

Each notch in the pedal pitch effect is equivalent to a chromatic note.

This effect is unable to have the same result that the Bigsby pedal.

It is necessary to have much more precision than the pitch pedal effect allows.

Finally · Mar 11th 2023

I think that pedal sounds like the right option for you. A dedicated effect unit is usually going to surpass any multi effect unit take on it.

azertyvince · Mar 11th 2023

I would have preferred that the Kemper can do it with an expression pedal.

The Bigby pedal requier a power supply.

Finally · Mar 12th 2023

The bigsby pedal has physical characteristics that can't be replicated with software.

azertyvince · Mar 12th 2023

I'm not sûre.

Wheresthedug · Mar 12th 2023

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I'm not sûre.

Finally is correct. It isn’t the software in the Kemper which is the issue but rather the fact that the Bigsby pedal is physically able to bend up and down. A normal expression pedal isn’t able to do this as it doesn’t have a center position. The Kemper software could accomplish this but would still need a pedal attached that could provide the centre position.

azertyvince · Mar 14th 2023

Tanks Wheresthedug.

The question about the physically Kemper expression pedal ability to bend up and down like the Bigsby pedal is not my subject.

For the moment, i don't have an expression pedal. I would like to buy a Mission Engineering Expression pedal with spring (and i know that she works in one sens only, is not my subject), but my subject is : does the Kemper is able to detuned progessively the sound like the Bigsby pedal ?

When i try this with the pedal pitch effect, and the virtual expression pedal as a scrollbar in Rig Manager, it does'nt work.

There's no progressiveness between two chromatic notes.

Wheresthedug · Mar 14th 2023

The Kemper pitch pedal effect when used with an expression pedal is very smooth and progressive. The Mission is my least least favourite of my expression pedals for anything other than wah but it should still work if you need a spring loaded pedal.

azertyvince · Mar 14th 2023

Tanks Wheresthedug.

Someone could provide a demo ?

dfdfan · Mar 15th 2023

Quote from azertyvince

Tanks Wheresthedug.
Someone could provide a demo ?

I am unable to upload a video here but when you make changes in the editor it does it in steps because you are choosing a specific start and stop point. If you hook up the exp pedal it will be smooth. Its basically a digitech whammy.

Finally · Mar 15th 2023

azertyvince · Saturday, 2:45 pm

Thanks Finally,

It's interesting, it seems progressive.

But the Guy detunes the sound on 1 octave.

But what's the result on juste one # or b or chromatic note ? Does it as progressive as that ?

dfdfan · Sunday, 5:51 pm

It is. Think of it just like the digitech whammy pedal. Its all smooth. It also can be set to glitchy if you desire that old school whammy I sound. You dont hear any stepping in use.

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