Near done with Kemper, any suggestions before it goes up for sale?

  • Have you done a factory reset on your Kemper?


    Make sure of the following cab related settings -

    1. Cab section isn’t locked.

    2. Output doesn’t have the cab disabled.


    When it comes to level -

    3. Input Sens settings aren’t too high.

    4. Output level isn’t too high.


    Neither input light nor output lights should go any further than bright green (any yellow at all means clipping on either input or output).


    Remember as will all digital audio equipment make tonal changes and raise distortion and compression with the controls, not by driving inputs!


    This means by using the gain control or compression in the Kemper and the level on your amp (either on the speakers or on your audio interface in this case) rather than pushing an input or output on either the Kemper or your audio interface.


    Then check that some effects are disabled.

    6. Pure cab is initially disabled (you may or may not like the effect on the tone).

    7. “Space” is also disabled.


    After that check your guitar and monitoring.

    8. Are you comparing through the same monitors/speakers as the Kemper?

    9. Do you have active pickups? Have you replaced the battery recently?


    Finally once again you haven’t answered my question - have you profiled your own amps?

  • The problem is Line 6 fanboys turned Kemper, who insist in hearing samples and then say its your problem. Pretty ignorant really.

    I've never used Line 6, so I'm definitely not one of their fanboys.

    I never asked or insisted on hearing your sample, just responded to what I heard.

    Ignorance is coming to a forum asking for help, refusing to try the suggestions offered, and then complaining about being ridiculed for continuing to complain about it...... this is how trolls act when they are seeking attention.


    Now, if you're not a troll, then here's my suggestions:

    1) If your guitar has active pickups, buy new batteries and install them.... same for your guitar cable.

    2) Try the Top Jimi profile just as it came, no tweaking, using the same kind of guitar it was profiled with (IE- if it was profiled with a Les Paul and the Lead Pickups, use a Les Paul and the Lead Pickup).

    3) Profile one of your own amps that you think sounds good and see if the Kemper can reproduce that sound fairly closely.


    If this doesn't work, then do a full factory reset since you've probably got it's settings FUBAR'd from messing with it over the past 2 years.

    Then go back and try steps 2 and 3 again.


    If you still can't get it to sound at least in the ballpark, send it back to Kemper if it's under warranty.

    If not, just sell the damn thing....your ears are obviously far superior to anyone else in the music industry and the Kemper will never measure up for you <sarc>.


    Since I have zero expectation that you are going to actually follow any of this advice, I'm going to stop following this topic since I'm pretty sure you are just a troll.

  • Done all the above Per, but thanks for the suggestions. No active pickups.

    Didn't buy it to profile my own amp, but to get profiles of amps I don't have access to.

  • Done all the above Per, but thanks for the suggestions. No active pickups.

    Didn't buy it to profile my own amp, but to get profiles of amps I don't have access to.

    Me neither.

    I still get the feeling that the interface is playing games with you.

    With all the controls (Inputs/outputs/EQ etc) in their default/out of the box state, and the monitors plugged directly to the Kemper main outs, a new/untouched profile should sound great at volume.

  • Well it's still the Xmas hols and the good vibe I've picked up from my tradition of watching a different version of "A Christmas Carol' each year is still flowing through me and I hope amongst you guys/gals also and I put the recent bout of venting down to cabin fever getting the better of us.


    Terence- I think there might be some confusion re: the help being offered - some of it are tweaks you could make , whilst the rest are methods to try and identify the root cause.


    For example - does the Kemper actually "do what it says on the tin" (an advert us Brits will know)? If you have an amp and like what it sounds like recorded via a mic via an audio interface into a DAW, then profile it with same settings and see if it sounds the same.


    Now I completely agree with you, as I also didn't buy the Kemper to profile my Vox AC15 and/or my Fender Princeton, but instead to have access to all the other myriad of amps out there profiled by others; however, this is a way of checking if the Kemper works by comparing apples with apples.


    The other thing to remember is that the sound of the Kemper is the sound of a mic'd amp, not the sound of an amp/cab as heard by the player stood near it Does the Kemper sound bad whilst you are playing, or just when you play back what you've recorded?


    Damian has provided some useful clips (via the Sinmix website) to show how a single recorded mono guitar track could sound a bit 'meh', but when multi-tracked and added to the mix of the full song it can sound OK.


    I think ultimately people are trying to see if:

    1. They can help you with a few tweaks and the magic of the Kemper will be revealed;
    2. There is something wrong with your Kemper (and if so, you should send it in to be looked at); or
    3. There is nothing fundamentally wrong, but you just don't like it

    If you go through stages 1 and 2 and you end up at 3, then I ain't gonna get butt hurt if you sell up - in the end playing guitar is meant to be fun, not more hassle than the day job.


    Happy New Year to you all - especially to all those helping fine tune the public beta, whilst I just sit and wait for the first full release!

  • I agree that doesn't sound right to me. It sounds like a fuzz pedal. Sorry it's been such a bummer for you. Hope you can try out another one to establish if yours is faulty.


    Are you using a Strat bridge single coil pickup in the clip? Does it sound great through other amps? Most of the Strats I've worked on had the pickups set too high, especially if the owner was going for high gain sounds with vintage pups. Just another potential avenue to explore.


    I'm at the beach, but will try to post my own sample of that profile with a Strat when I get back to civilisation.

  • Me neither.

    I still get the feeling that the interface is playing games with you.

    With all the controls (Inputs/outputs/EQ etc) in their default/out of the box state, and the monitors plugged directly to the Kemper main outs, a new/untouched profile should sound great at volume.

    The RME interface seems to be fine, I've tested it using Amplitube and it sounds normal. If Kemper confirms there's nothing wrong with their product when I send it in for servicing, I'll be in touch with RME anyway.

    Tried my setup with both my computers, no difference.

  • I agree that doesn't sound right to me. It sounds like a fuzz pedal. Sorry it's been such a bummer for you. Hope you can try out another one to establish if yours is faulty.


    Are you using a Strat bridge single coil pickup in the clip? Does it sound great through other amps? Most of the Strats I've worked on had the pickups set too high, especially if the owner was going for high gain sounds with vintage pups. Just another potential avenue to explore.


    I'm at the beach, but will try to post my own sample of that profile with a Strat when I get back to civilisation.

    All my guitars sound fine through my amp. Even checked them through a POD.

    The Les Paul I never put through the Kemper, as it sounds worse than the clip I posted.

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  • Done all the above Per, but thanks for the suggestions. No active pickups.

    Didn't buy it to profile my own amp, but to get profiles of amps I don't have access to.

    Hi, the point about profiling your own amp is twofold.


    Firstly yes it’s what the Kemper was designed for. You get a nice tone that you like the way you like it and then capture it so you don’t have to deal with the issues of recreating it live or for going back to do redo dubs, or just for archival purposes so that you can reuse that tone without waking the neighbors.


    But secondly and more importantly in your case so that you can compare and see that the Kemper really isn’t like a Line6 Pod, but is actually very accurate to the source.


    Until you do a profile yourself you will never know how accurate it is and therefore you may jump to erroneous conclusions about things like “digital fizz” and so on, based purely on assumption and prejudice.

    I know this from first hand experience myself. Knowing that the Kemper is accurate and is a professional tool allowed me to both relax and also helped me train my ear for recording far better than before. I am now able to pick better profiles for my mixes from the exchange, know when and where I might use a real amp instead (and exactly why, and it’s not digital fizz or anything like that, but rather when I want specific room reverb, both power and preamp distortion and when I want to use highly colored mic preamps). It allows me to trouble shoot with a much higher degree of accuracy what is wrong with my signal chain.


    I suggest you try it, learning how to profile also brings a new edge to knowledge on micing up your amps, using your signal chain efficiently and effectively.


    Most importantly it will clarify for you whether there is a problem with your specific Kemper, whether the Kemper itself is accurate or digital sounding and whether it’s tolerances are acceptable to you. It is the only way to determine this for yourself.

  • My first thought was.. dead batteries on active pickups.

    Just what I thought and said, mate.

    That clip does not sound like cab is off. Sounds like it's clipping massively, dead batteries on active pickups or like an old cab farting out.

    Agreed.


    I'd like to hear a clean direct-guitar sample. The fact that it sounds like a flat battery feeding actives (to me, sprada and at least one other), suggests that there may be something going on at the guitar / electrical / connector / cable end of things.


    Finally suggested it could be a pickup-height thing, which would be one of the things that'll mess with that clean tone. You said that it's not just one guitar 'though, which would suggest a connector / capacitance / cable-sort of thing maybe.


    At any rate, I'd like to verify that the clean signal directly from the guitar/s is kosher. If there's any distortion in it, IMHO that'd be the issue right there.