Neural Quad Cortex

  • True, but I don't want to bring a rack mount to gigs. And the FM3 (which I really want to try) cant do that (could be wrong). To clarify, it's not the reason I would buy a product, not even top 10 but it is a great topping on the ice cream cone

    FM3 can do it too :)

    AxeFX3 not only can have a different amp per channel but it also supports dual amps. So that's 8 amps per preset :D

  • Sorry but when Ola is showing to switch different amps.....Ryth,Lead,Clean..... the kemper can do the same through the Performance Mode. Is the Kemper much slower with the changes?


    Another thing is....can you plug in 2 guitars and 1 Bass in ONE Quad Cortex and do music on stage or in your rehearsal room?

    That would minimize the gear!

  • ADA MP1s have been successfully profiled many times - one famous unit is in the Michael Wagener Rig Pack (Extreme Pornograffitti among others)

    there are many Profiles in the Rig Exchange, so it might be an issue with your unit (too noisy like you said) and not an issue of the PROFILER

    I have bought some professional ADA packs, not the one by Wagener, though, as it was available only in a very large bundle with lots of other profiles I was not too interested in.


    I want to go with the ADA into the return loop of a JCM800, because...well, because it's a JCM800, this should be sufficient reason. At my friend's place, he used a DSL2000 (which itself also had a nice sound, adding its couloring, when running the ADA through the power section and the cabs).


    I haven't found any profiles of such a setup yet. Most profiles focus on the Nuno type of sound for the ADA, while I am more interested in Gilbert's early sound.


    The commercial profiles I got do all sound very well, some match my needs better than others, but I am still on that famous chase for THE specific tone I have in mind. I doubt anyone here on the forum will even know what kind of chase I'm talking about ;)

  • 3ms is as if you were one meter away from your speaker. I can't feel or hear any latency at 3ms.

    This is absolutely TRUE. I am 6ft tall. practically ANY wedge speaker is going to be AT LEAST 5 feet from my head and likely more than that if I move a short distance from my mic. The thumb rule is 1 mSec per foot from source.


    3mSec is NOT perceivable when using a wedge monitor. You move around 3 feet from your monitor routinely in a gig.


    There are supposedly people who can detect around 3mSec of delay in a vocal IEM setup, but studies show that MOST people can't.


    There is absolutely no possible way that a person could tell the difference between a wedge delay and a digital delay if both were equal, but note, using a KPA with 3mSec latency and a wedge would give you an over-all latency that is approximately 3 mSec more than a tube amp and a cab positioned at the same distance from your head. But ALSO note that guitar cabs are RARELY as close to you as a wedge monitor is on stage (and it is usually behind you at that). Bottom line? No way can you tell the difference in KPA latency compared to a tube amp in a live situation.

  • Play your guitar 10 meters away from your amp.
    that should be around 33ms.

    Now set your audio interface to have a roundtrip of 33ms and play the same thing.

    Let me know if it the experience is similar :)

    I have done this with my PA ;). Truth be told, standing 10 meters away from stage is WORSE by far than simply introducing a 33mSec pre-delay because of all the reflections with the actual PA. So I will amend my statement :).


    At distances normal to stage monitors, you can't tell the difference because insufficient reflections exist in that short distance to make any sonic difference to the human ear from a simple delay.


    FWIW, 33 mSec is an intolerable difference no matter how it is achieved. It truly drives a guitarist mad in very short order!

  • It can profile pedals which no one can do at the moment. That is a big point in my opinion.

    You can profile an OD pedal as I understand it ( similar principle to DI profile), its just there is little point as you can't use it in conjunction with an amp.


    You can as you know profile an amp with a pedal too...so not a game changer. I can achieve the same with the KPA although I totally agree it has more flex.

  • You can profile an OD pedal as I understand it ( similar principle to DI profile), its just there is little point as you can't use it in conjunction with an amp.


    You can as you know profile an amp with a pedal too...so not a game changer. I can achieve the same with the KPA although I totally agree it has more flex.

    But do we (yet) know if one shot fits all needs? Is there yet prove that it even works better than the drive stomps of Kemper with a given profile?

  • This might not only answer the last questions about scenes (=seamless switching)

    So, only referring to the scenario outlined in Ola’s video, that called my attention. QC framework demanded more CPU power to achieve a seamless switching between up to 4 amp sounds for live use, the KPA uses less CPU power to do the same in performance mode and you can get 5 different amp tones slots. You can get more than 5 amp seamless switching if you change between KP performances, it would be cool if someone tests seamless switching between scenes in the QC, too.


    Of course, QC tones are good and it will be a contender in the market, no question about it. The form factor is not definitely for me, but there is a market for small pedalboard friendly units. We don’t know the cost structure of this type of devices, but Fractal FM3 is half the price of an AXE FX iii, there is a feature differentiation between both of those units which might be preventing revenue cannibalization while allowing fractal go for a different user segment,


    maybe KP could evaluate a Kemper Stomp or something like that.

  • The QC doesn't significantly do anything that other units don't already do. It has a unique combination of features but so do the Helix, Axe and KPA.

    There are a few things it can do that other units can't. The QC includes both, captures and amp models. It can capture pedals and amps, and allows you to use both in a single preset. In fact, you can use more than 4 captures at a time. You can combine a capture with an amp model. So, for instance, you could capture a pedal and use it in conjunction with an amp model. Now, maybe those features don't interest you, but those are things it can do that other units can't. However, there's one thing every other unit can do that the Quad Cortex can't; save individual presets or profiles to a computer or USB stick.

  • The only thing that is interesting for me with the QC ist that you can plug in more than one guitar! That would help to minimize the gear.

    I like the Kemper ON BOARD Pedals and Effects.....to capture a pedal would be never a reason to buy the QC!


    I will follow the QC and we will see what is happening with this great thing in about a year!


    The Hype is there and i will check the QC out for sure!

  • I don't really understand how anyone could use more than one instrument into a single device live.

    I mean, Helix supports this, Axe FX supports this ... I haven't seen such a setup ever in my life.

    I understand this for vocals + guitar or for busking but for shows ...