Now I got the question
Yes, we have plans for a per-rig setting.
We are still asking ourself, if that setting should be stored in the Rig data or in the Cabinet Module (!).
Just purchased based on this post. Looking forward to the update that includes this!!!
I know, there is tubiness baked into the profile, but if you have only preamp profiles, then you have 100% real tube behavior. And I still don't know if tube poweramp (besides overlapping tubiness baked into profile) gives a little more umph, 3D, chime...
Monkey_Man - please explain it here in most simple manner
I'm sure skoczy wouldn't mind if I quoted from our private conversation about this; it'd save me a bunch of typing and repetition:
I know ss power amp is more transparent, but this tube thing... ?
If you're using it with the Kemper only, there's no point in it being tube-based, as I think you know.
So you think that the tubes in poweramp, would not give that chime and am in the room? I don't care about slight coloration. I want top class sound an feel.
Don't you see any advantage of PS-2 against IcePower SS amp? DO you think, that these power tubes do nothing?
Display MoreNo man, I just don't see the point in adding tubes when the Kemper's Profiles already have 'em in 'em. It's not-authentic in that regard.
I'm all for tubes - love 'em, which is why I bought a Kemper. If a Profile used a tube amp, tube mic and tube mic preamp, what would be the point in adding yet more tubes? At the very least, most serious Profiles use tube amps and mic preamps 'cause that's what the studio big boys use. If there was any point in adding yet another layer of tubes other than possibly substituting a tube mic, the studios would do so, but none do.
Hey man, whatever floats your boat of course, but you mentioned the amp-in-the-room thing, and Kemper Kabinet and Kone should take care of that.
Again, just MHO brother; definitely not telling you what to do!
Thanks Nicky for your opinion. I just thought that tube poweramp can add more life and 3D to final effect. But if you say that his is baked into the profile and Kabinet should take care of amp in the room - I gotta believe you.
Thanks
[Skoczy plays Kemper->Fryette Power Station video]
Display MoreAll I know is that too many layers of tubes will clutter a mix and gradually smear attack transients.
Think of it this way:
Each set of tubes a signal passes through adds a bunch of harmonics.
Sending those harmonics through another stage adds a bunch more, and so on, and the new harmonics generated from the old ones really create a clutter and become ever-less musical as more stages are added. It's not natural for any instrument to contain too many harmonics. Our brains use harmonics to help identify instruments, so adding too many from one instrument in a mix only serves to confuse IMHO.
A solo signal tends to sound better the more "exciting" it is - IOW, more harmonics. However, in a mixing situation, be it live or studio, less is more beyond a certain point, and that point is what I mentioned earlier - tube amp, mic (sometimes tube mic's are used, but not often) and tube mic preamp. Back in the day tape saturation was added, which also adds harmonics, but it's a different flavour from tubes. You could use a sim plugin for this if you like, but as I alluded to, the danger is overdoing it.
This is just MHO as expressed in a private conversation; I'm no authority of course and YMMV.
HTH anyone who's been pondering the situation, and thank you skoczy for inviting me in. 
Kone has arrived.
Nice little bonus.
Is that a stencil? That's freakin' awesome! I mean...I'm not going to use it on my cab's grill cloth, but that's pretty cool
Is that a stencil?
It sure is, brother. 
Will there be an official cover for the Kabinet?
Will there be an official cover for the Kabinet?
That would be good
My Kabinet should be delivered tomorrow.
Meanwhile, I downloaded the latest FW (7.2.1) and updated RigManager to have everything prepared.
By playing around with the new Kone Settings in the Kemper's output section, it looks to me as it's not possible to save the Imprint per Rig?
For instance, I would have assumed that I could save one of the Celestion imprints on Marshall Rigs and choose one of the Jensen Imprints for Fender profiles?
Or did I miss something?
Nevertheless, super exciting and can't wait for tomorrow 
you are correct. At the moment it is a global setting other than having an FRFR option when there is no cab in the stack section. However, I believe they said that the intention in a future update will be to have a default imprint which can be overridden on a rig bu rig basis if desired. I don’t know when this is likely to happen though.
at the moment I am having good results with an imprint in 4 rigs in a performance but the 5th rig is set up for the piezo pickup on my P22. When I select slot 5 the imprint gets bypassed and the Kabinet becomes an FRFR speaker which makes the acoustic sound great.
I'm still confused about the use of the kone imprints. Can you use this setup as follows : Guitar > KPA > direct profile (DI) > Celestion imprints > Monitor out (Cab off) > Power AMP > Kabinet ? The reason i'm asking , when i tied this setup with Yamanha HS8 using DI profile, it sounded still like a DI and did not influence the Impulse response, However when i try a merged profile, i could hear the Celestion imprints on my Yamaha HS8
Add a cab to the DI profile and it should work. When there's no cab on the profile the Kemper switches to the linear (FRFR) imprint. Take a look at the Addendum 7.2 to the manual. It explains this in detail.
I'm still confused about the use of the kone imprints. Can you use this setup as follows : Guitar > KPA > direct profile (DI) > Celestion imprints > Monitor out (Cab off) > Power AMP > Kabinet ? The reason i'm asking , when i tied this setup with Yamanha HS8 using DI profile, it sounded still like a DI and did not influence the Impulse response, However when i try a merged profile, i could hear the Celestion imprints on my Yamaha HS8
I'm still confused about the use of the kone imprints. Can you use this setup as follows : Guitar > KPA > direct profile (DI) > Celestion imprints > Monitor out (Cab off) > Power AMP > Kabinet ? The reason i'm asking , when i tied this setup with Yamanha HS8 using DI profile, it sounded still like a DI and did not influence the Impulse response, However when i try a merged profile, i could hear the Celestion imprints on my Yamaha HS8
Ckemper said that you have to add a cab to the DI profile (and so make it merged), so the cab part can be ignored (!) by the profiler when using an imprint. I find that strange, but it is how it's supposed to be done. I'm pretty sure it will add a LOT of confusion to an already confusing studio/DI/merged distinction.
Thanks! it worked
Now I got the question 
Yes, we have plans for a per-rig setting.
We are still asking ourself, if that setting should be stored in the Rig data or in the Cabinet Module (!).
ckemper How about both? All rigs get kone setting in output section, unless override setting is in Rig data.
Ordered a cabinet 3 days ago (promised 2-3 days delivery on the website) and not so much as a thank you from them... they sure dinged my credit card within minutes of receiving the order though... that was after they posted the wrong price, raised it by a hundred bucks and non-nonchalantly canceled my first order... shows how much they care about their loyal customer base... Kemper doesn't really seem to have much of an understanding of time and promises as is proven again and again... the profiler is great, everything else, not so much!
You want them to say thank you? I just assume that companies are grateful when I order stuff.
I think this might not be the last delayed delivery you receive given the global context.
ShadowJumper You may want to check your Spam folder - I've seen posts where people have indicated they have found emails from Kemper there.
You want them to say thank you? I just assume that companies are grateful when I order stuff.
I think this might not be the last delayed delivery you receive given the global context.
Yeah... take advantage of that one-size fits all excuse for lack of common courtesies.... maybe in your world, not acceptable in mine.
ShadowJumper You may want to check your Spam folder - I've seen posts where people have indicated they have found emails from Kemper there.
The website says the same thing... it is just lack of appreciation... which I've come to expect from Kemper...
I've made a career from improving customer facing processes and systems. I don't think you've been victimised quite as badly as you're suggesting. Different cultures have differing requirements for fake gushing all over their customers.
I think you should check your email quarantine.
Anyway - really look forward to the new speakers and ability to save imprints per profile because we asked and they appreciate their customers. ??????
