Differences between the Kone and the Celestion F12-X200?

  • the maker is the same cause Celestion builds the Kone for kemper

    the F12 has a separate driver for high frequencies

    the kone has a custom whizzer cone which is used by the kemper kone firmware

    its a diff thing

    but i like the f12 as an frfr speaker

    using it with the kone imprints im not so happy sound wise

  • Per CK himself:


    “The Kone is a modification of the K12H-200, where we have redesigned the inner wizzer cone down to a smaller size, to achieve a different dispersion pattern for the high frequencies.


    The Kone / Kabinet and the adjaced digital part in the Profiler perfectly match. You cannot run another speaker (including the K12H-200) with it, as it would result in a reasonably different frequency responce.”

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    Edited once, last by Ruefus ().

  • F12-X200 -- Kone

    FRFR (60Hz-20KHz) -- GRFR (50Hz-10KHz)

    woofer/HPF/tweeter -- woofer/wizzer cone

    different construction materials


    Basically, take a look at the Celestion K12H-200TC if you want to know what the Kone is like. I'm sticking be my broken-record-story that the Kone (officially, the K12K-200) is a very slightly modified version of the K12H-200TC, if it's not the same.

  • We CK himself:


    “The Kone is a modification of the K12H-200, where we have redesigned the inner wizzer cone down to a smaller size, to achieve a different dispersion pattern for the high frequencies.


    The Kone / Kabinet and the adjaced digital part in the Profiler perfectly match. You cannot run another speaker (including the K12H-200) with it, as it would result in a reasonably different frequency responce.”

    Oh cool... I hadn't seen that quote from CK. Thanks.

  • Thanks all!


    Just what I needed to know, looks like Im waiting for the Kone. ;)

    If you use FRFR the benefit of a merged profile is that the cabinet is totally separated in the profile.


    For my edification only... :D Kemper/Helix user

  • I wonder if I can replace the speaker in a Tech 21 PEDD w/the K.K.? The amp is 100W into 8 ohms, but if you run a PEDD extension speaker it becomes 4 ohm load and 200W.

    Things that make you go Huhmmmmm.

    I have the old T21 PE 60 and the T21 people told me it would overheat the Power Engine if I used a 4 ohm load. I'm going to use the PE cabinet to hold the Kone and use a DV Mark CMT to power it.

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  • The PEDD amp will run a 4 ohm load as it extension cabinet compatible. Actually they make a passive cab to add to a PEDD. It's 100W into 8 ohms and when you add the extension it becomes 200W. Kind of deceiving in their marketing but I wasn't using it live, just at home.