Profiler Rigs Tags Editor

GuyTarero · Aug 16th 2012

Last feedback from a tester :

first of all, I've tested the backup function extensively and it works fantastic.
I edited around 500 files in Excel mostly using autofill, copy and paste.
Then I ran the backup function and took the resulting files and put them in the KPA-backup tar-file.
I then did a restore and had all files show up with their tags edited.
I can now use the filter and view modes of the new OS and it's fantastic to have all Fender amps line up behind each other.

"save tags" day is approaching...

Laurent

GuyTarero · Aug 16th 2012

OK, so for those who are interested, here it is :

First of all, let me say a big "THANK YOU" to all forum members who used, tested this tool and provided good advices
and feedback.

In complement to the first post of this thread I wrote a short readme file that is available here :

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/readme.txt

The zip file is available here :
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/kpa_tag_inspector.zip

Concerning the installation procedure, see the first post of the thread.

Feedback is welcome(expected ?),
Enjoy,
Laurent

Update : for Mac OSX 10.7.4 users, I generated a .app that is available here :
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…tor-Mac-OSX10.7.4.app.zip

Uncompress it and copy it into your Applications directory
Works fine on my mac, could not test on other macs

For other Mac OSX users, I attach the setup file i used with py2app to generate this .app
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/setup.py

GuyTarero · Aug 16th 2012

Update : For Mac OSX 10.7.4 users, I generated a .app that is available here :
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…tor-Mac-OSX10.7.4.app.zip

Uncompress it and copy it into your Applications directory
Works fine on my mac, could not test on other macs, feedback welcome, let me know
if it works for you

When double clicking on this kpa_tag_inspector.app, it starts but i don't know why the window gets iconified,
close to other programs such as safari, mail,... so you should find it and one left click on it should open the window.

Laurent

GuyTarero · Aug 20th 2012

i removed some remaining tabs in the code that could cause some problems
for pc users
I pushed the changed code here : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/kpa_tag_inspector.zip

For Mac OSX10.7.4 users, I also generated a new .app that should open the main window when double clicking on it
it is here :
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…tor-Mac-OSX10.7.4.app.zip

when installing python, choose version 2.7.x and not version 3 !

Desperately waiting for feedback,
Laurent

heavypick · Aug 23rd 2012

Hey Laurent - great work!

I hope I can help a little. I am using a Mac running 10.5.8
I am running Inspector in Python 2.7 on Terminal

Loaded a single kipr file - OK
Did not make any changes to the file.
Saved file with new TEST name
Loaded TEST file and got this error:-
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Code

RCNE SendEventToEventTarget (suom Moved ) failed, -50
Exception in Tkinter callback
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1410, in __call__
return self.func(*args)
File "./kpa_tag_inspector.py", line 950, in analyze_file
output_dictionary=get_tags(file)
File "./python_files/analyze_kipr_file.py", line 656, in get_tags
current_midi_file.read()
File "./python_files/analyze_kipr_file.py", line 544, in read
self.readstr(self.file.read())
File "./python_files/analyze_kipr_file.py", line 552, in readstr
length, str = getNumber(str[4:], 4)
File "./python_files/analyze_kipr_file.py", line 95, in getNumber
sum = (sum << 8) + ord(str)
IndexError: string index out of range

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I got the same error when I tried to load a file where I had changed the CabinetAuthor tag.

I hope this helps, and is not just an error of my installation!
Note: I had to list the error message as 'code' because of the '8' and the ')' in line 15 were being shown as

bigHF · Aug 23rd 2012

Laurent is on vacation and will probably not reply for another week.

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GuyTarero · Aug 24th 2012

Hi HeavyPick,

Thanks a lot for the feedback,
I tried to fix the regression ,I updated the following links :

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/kpa_tag_inspector.zip

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…tor-Mac-OSX10.7.4.app.zip

Please let me know if it fixes the problem from your side.
Laurent

heavypick · Aug 24th 2012

Yep, the problem has now gone

You can now load a .kipr file, save it with another name and then load that saved file. Everything looks good!

You can still create a 0 bytes file if you 'Clear' the tags and then save the file - perhaps a warning here? Or maybe a 'Restore Tags' or 'Undo Clear' which reloads the original file tags to allow you to start again?

Hope this helps

Hmm, thinking about it:- I suppose you will need to consider which tags you will not allow the user to change? The Author, for example? I am still new to Kemper, (so forgive me if I have this wrong) but I think I would not like people using one of my profiled rigs and claiming they created it when all they did is tweak some settings.

GuyTarero · Aug 24th 2012

Thanks HeavyPick ,

version updated to 1.0.3 to fix the problem + some cosmetic changes, same dropbox links :

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/kpa_tag_inspector.zip

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…tor-Mac-OSX10.7.4.app.zip

Laurent

GuyTarero · Aug 26th 2012

some cosmetics changes and clean-up of useless items in some lists
The dropbox links remain the same :

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/kpa_tag_inspector.zip

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…tor-Mac-OSX10.7.4.app.zip

Readme file (installation and description) : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/readme.txt

An example of generated excel sheet from "Kemper the best of Profiles.zip" (sorted by Rig author) :
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…best%20of%20Profiles.xlsx

Some pictures :

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/pictures/editor1.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/pictures/editor2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/pictures/editor5.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/pictures/excel.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/pictures/kpatest1.JPG
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/pictures/kpatest2.JPG

Laurent

newsound · Aug 26th 2012

right click on file kpa_tag_inspector/kpa_tag_inspector.py
- choose "run with IDLE"
- choose "run, then run module"
- By associating the python .exe file to this .py file, the tool can be launched by double clicking on
this .py file.

What is IDLE?

GuyTarero · Aug 26th 2012

IDLE is the integrated development environment that comes when installing python on windows
the "open with IDLE" option should appear when right cliking on the kpa_tag_inspector.py file
if it doesn't, choose "open with...", then select the python .exe file
you should then be able to launch the tool by double clicking on kpa_tag_inspector.py

i will add this in the readme file

i hope this will help
thank you
laurent

GuyTarero · Aug 27th 2012

New version pushed under dropbox :
- some cosmetic changes
- Empty tags are set to "NA" for Not Available
- Tags are written with capital letters in csv files ( and thus in rig files when "Batch process a csv file" is used )

For those who are interested, I tested using a bundle called "Kemper the best of profiles" found on the forum, the resulting rigs are here:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…0best%20of%20profiles.zip

The corresponding excel sheet can be found here : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887…best%20of%20Profiles.xlsx

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neil-c · Aug 29th 2012

Laurent

Looks like some great work. I'd like to sort, order and delete many of my profiles. From reading this thread I believe the tool enables me extract, sort, edit and write back to the Kemper? I want to rename and get all the Fenders, Marshalls etc together, is this possible?

Many thanks

Neil

GuyTarero · Aug 29th 2012

Hi Neil,

Today the tool allows to :

- extract the tags
- edit the tags
- save them to kipr rig files
- browse directories containing rig files
- generate a csv file, containing the tags of all kipr files, that can be edited in excel
- read the previously generated excel sheet and write all tags found into the corresponding kipr files
- rename kipr files following this model : Rig_(Rig author)_(Rig name)_(Amp name)_(Cab name).kipr

it does not perform any sort, i preferred to let all sort functions to excel , that is much powerful
It doesn' t delete rigs from the kemper, the generated files must be put on a usb stick and imported from the kemper

I will soon propose a new version of the tool that will force (it will be an option) the amp name tag following this model :
Amp name = (Amp source)_(Amp model)_(Amp channel)_(Amp gain)
so that sorting rigs by amp names, you will see these 3 parameters
The amp name tag is limited to 20 char so it will work only under some conditions, this is why it will be an option

for example : MAR_JCM800_OD1_G33 :

- source : Marshall
- model:jcm800
- channel:OD1
- gain:3.3

The main problem today with rigs coming from rig exchange is that there is no rule to add tags, so that it is a mess
For example, for marshall amps, you can find for amp name tag (when it is filled) : jcm800,mar,mars, marsh,marshal, marshall, marshall JCM800
Same thing applies to all tags

I hope this helps,
Laurent

neil-c · Aug 29th 2012

Laruent,

Thanks that's really helpful and I understand your point sorting in excel.

Neil

stompman · Aug 29th 2012

This looks very useful! I'll check it out once my KPA gets here...which is today I hope! Thank you for working on this!!

GuyTarero · Aug 30th 2012

Here are some examples of processed rigs : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/renamed_rigs.zip

After uncompressing the archive, the rigs should be put on a usb stick and imported into the kpa.

The rig file names follow this model : Rig_[rig author]_[rig name]_[amp name]_[cabinet name]_.kipr
It is a mix of several rigs i could find on the forum
The rigs amp names follow this model: (Amp source)_(Amp model)_(Amp_channel)_G(Amp gain) so that if you sort them by amp name, you should get all amps grouped by source (manufacturer)

Of course, i had to shorten some tags in order to get such amp names (see some examples below)

I don't know if it is useful for everybody but I thought it would fit my needs, it is not delivered yet with the tool

Waiting for some feedback,
Laurent

Amp source tags
Fender -> FEN
Marshall -> MAR
....

Amp model tags
Princeton -> PTON
Bassman -> BMAN

Amp channel tags
Clean -> CL
Crunch -> CR
...

sorted amp names
FEN_57 TWIN_CR_G6.8
FEN_59BMAN_CR_G2.6
FEN_59BMAN_CR_G3.3
FEN_65 PTON_NA_G2.4
...
MAR_JCM900_DIRT_G6.2
MAR_JMC2550_CR_G4.4
MAR_JMC2550_CR_G4.4
MAR_JMC2550_LD_G8.6
MAR_JMC2550_LD_G8.6
MAR_JMP_CH1_G6.8
...

musicman65 · Aug 30th 2012

Laurent,

awesome tool....works great!

I have a request. The window size is fixed and it is slightly wider than my screen. My computer has a 1366x768 resolution. Could you squeeze it down just a little on the next release. I cant use the scroll bar without sliding the window back and forth to get it on the screen...and the other side then is off screen.

Thanks,

bd

GuyTarero · Aug 31st 2012

For those who are interested, I created a new version here :
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/kpa_tag_inspector.zip

I added a menu entry to force amp name tag (to be used only when amp source, amp model and amp channel tags follow some conditions as explained in the readme file) , the main window size was reduced for some tablet owners.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/readme.txt

As an example you will find :

1 - An archive containing renamed rigs (and amp name tags)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/example2.zip

2 - The corresponding excel sheet
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74887749/example2.xlsx

Please let me know if this version works for you,
Laurent

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