String Butler Before & After Comparison

  • I shared this years ago, this is a newer example. Mine works great.8)

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  • Another fix: Get a Fender, get a PRS, get a MusicMan. ;)

    Fenders don’t sound like a Gibson….in 30 years I’ve never found a PRS neck profile I didn’t hate and Music Mans are very nice (the St. Vincent sig is just killer)…..but don’t sound like Gibsons. (Might be that Leo Fender lineage)


    I also find the tuning issue overblown.

    “Without music, life would be a mistake.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • Gibsons can't sound like Fender and that's unfortunate. ;) :P


    Problems are probably just on particular guitars not the entire model lineup. No one can build a perfect guitar unless it was maybe made out of carbon fiber -which they do have now for $$$$$$$. LOL. A good setup, good maintenance, and stable temperatures should remedy tuning issues.

    Larry Mar @ Lonegun Studios. Neither one famous yet.

  • Gibsons can't sound like Fender and that's unfortunate. ;) :P


    Problems are probably just on particular guitars not the entire model lineup. No one can build a perfect guitar unless it was maybe made out of carbon fiber -which they do have now for $$$$$$$. LOL. A good setup, good maintenance, and stable temperatures should remedy tuning issues.

    On most guitars yes. But on Gibsons, and few others, with that string angle it doesn't matter if a good setup is done, good maintenance or stable tempratures. And if a Gibson is a must....well this is a good solution. I know others have installed a string butler and finally have a guitar that will stay in tune.

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  • On most guitars yes. But on Gibsons, and few others, with that string angle it doesn't matter if a good setup is done, good maintenance or stable tempratures. And if a Gibson is a must....well this is a good solution. I know others have installed a string butler and finally have a guitar that will stay in tune.

    At least with my R8, none of the above is true. This is a guitar I bought new in 2005, from Guitar Center (gasp!). Other than regular string changes and general setups, it’s never been worked on.


    None of the stability issues people talk about are present. The same holds true for a ES-335 a friend played on every stage in town for a decade.


    I’m not saying the problem doesn’t exist. At the same time, to imply all 3x3 Gibson’s suffer from it isn’t really true, either.

    “Without music, life would be a mistake.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • At least with my R8, none of the above is true. This is a guitar I bought new in 2005, from Guitar Center (gasp!). Other than regular string changes and general setups, it’s never been worked on.


    None of the stability issues people talk about are present. The same holds true for a ES-335 a friend played on every stage in town for a decade.


    I’m not saying the problem doesn’t exist. At the same time, to imply all 3x3 Gibson’s suffer from it isn’t really true, either.

    I didn't say that did I?

    Think for yourself, or others will think for you wihout thinking of you

    Henry David Thoreau

  • Gibsons can't sound like Fender and that's unfortunate. ;) :P


    Problems are probably just on particular guitars not the entire model lineup. No one can build a perfect guitar unless it was maybe made out of carbon fiber -which they do have now for $$$$$$$. LOL. A good setup, good maintenance, and stable temperatures should remedy tuning issues.

    The problem is that the neck angle on any Gibson Les Paul is (too) steep. Which causes issues on many many Les Pauls. Not all, but many.

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  • The problem is that the neck angle on any Gibson Les Paul is (too) steep. Which causes issues on many many Les Pauls. Not all, but many.

    Put a locking nut on it. Problem solved. ;) I think the worse on Gibsons is the ease of head breaks. I've heard many wishing for a shallower angle like they do on the Epiphone line. I like the LP and SG. I just can't stand high-gloss finished necks unless they are severely worn down.

    Larry Mar @ Lonegun Studios. Neither one famous yet.