Hi all
Is there a way to adjust the volumes of rigs at the same level (Rig manager or directly on the profiler)? I have plenty of them, set at very different levels, and I would like them to be homogenized.
Hi all
Is there a way to adjust the volumes of rigs at the same level (Rig manager or directly on the profiler)? I have plenty of them, set at very different levels, and I would like them to be homogenized.
The first thing to clarify is whether the rigs are all random in terms of gain level or if ALL Clean Rigs sound louder or quieter than ALL Overdriven Rigs. If it is a Clean V Dirty thing then use Clean Sense until they are well balanced then lock the input menu so that this becomes a global setting.
I'm gonna check the input functions. I can say all the rigs have a different volume, that's not only a difference between clean and overdriven. I set all the rigs over time and probably adjusted the rig volume differently.
I watched the Kemper video. I did what they explain, enter the input menu, adjust the Clean Sens and Distortion Sens , then hit the lock button, in order to apply the setup to all the rigs. Then, all my other rigs kept their own input setup, nothing's changed !!
Looks like you need to adjust the rig volumes o the the individual rigs unfortunately. I would reduce the loud ones rather than boost the quiet ones.
I watched the Kemper video. I did what they explain, enter the input menu, adjust the Clean Sens and Distortion Sens , then hit the lock button, in order to apply the setup to all the rigs. Then, all my other rigs kept their own input setup, nothing's changed !!
Can you please post a link of this video? I'm fighting this same battle at the moment.
I have never adjusted clean or distortion sense.
To balance rigs, use rig volume. Done.
The KPA does some leveling but given some sounds cut better than others, its not just about volume. Hence its better that you do balance them manually.
Clean (and distortion) sens isn’t for balancing rigs to other rigs.
It’s for balancing the *same* rig against different guitars with varying outputs.
Rig volume is what you want to balance rig to rig.
I found adjusting the Amp vol. along with setting clean/dist sense. Didn't like the results with Rig vol.left that at 0 setting.
Clean (and distortion) sens isn’t for balancing rigs to other rigs.
It’s for balancing the *same* rig against different guitars with varying outputs.
Rig volume is what you want to balance rig to rig.
Clean Sense is definitely for balancing Clean Rigs to Dirty Rigs on a Global Level. Distortion Sense is for balancing guitars.
Quote from kemper manualIf you feel that clean sounds are either very loud or very soft compared to distorted sounds, you can adjust Clean Sens to a level where clean sounds have the same perceived loudness as distorted sounds. Clean Sens determines the volume of clean sounds, but not the way that the amp or the effects are driven. A guitar with low output level stays cleaner; a hot guitar will still distort more easily.
Clean Sense is definitely for balancing Clean Rigs to Dirty Rigs on a Global Level. Distortion Sense is for balancing guitars.
Hm yes and no. You can definitely use clean sense to balance clean vs. dirty on a per guitar basis. Some guitars need a different clean sense level to have clean and dirty rigs have the same perceived volume.
Clean Sense is definitely for balancing Clean Rigs to Dirty Rigs on a Global Level. Distortion Sense is for balancing guitars.
I respectfully disagree. The sentence before your quote in the manual is crucial.
No mention of balancing rig vs rig.
Also, the input section tutorial on the Kemper site says nothing about rig to rig balance. It does state that the input section can be used to optimize the Profiler for specific guitars.
QuoteDifferent types of guitars produce different output levels depending on their pickups and string gauge: for example, humbucker pickups generate higher voltages compared to single coils, and active guitars generate even hotter signal levels.
Hm yes and no. You can definitely use clean sense to balance clean vs. dirty on a per guitar basis. Some guitars need a different clean sense level to have clean and dirty rigs have the same perceived volume.
This always surprises me as I set Clean Sense around -5 and leave it there for all my guitars. I never feelthe need to tweak it on a per guitar basis.
Well it's not an issue if you generally use a specific guitar for at specific rig.
Well it's not an issue if you generally use a specific guitar for at specific rig.
I actually have half a dozen guitars I use regularly from single coil strat type to Tele to PRS vintage and modern types and even EMG Luke set. I use random rigs. Rather than tweak a lot I just pick a rig and play so it covers a lot of ground but I still rarely move clean sense from around the -5 range.
Maybe I'm just weird ?
Well maybe I'm wrong. Try this:
Lowest output guitar
Looper at input
Strum something
While looping, rotate gain from 0 to 10 back and forth
Adjust clean sense until the two outer gain positions seem to have the same volume.
Repeat with highest output guitar
Same clean sense needed?
I'll play around with it tonight Niko. I trust your ears more than mine ?
We'll see
I actually have half a dozen guitars I use regularly from single coil strat type to Tele to PRS vintage and modern types and even EMG Luke set. I use random rigs. Rather than tweak a lot I just pick a rig and play so it covers a lot of ground but I still rarely move clean sense from around the -5 range.
Maybe I'm just weird ?
I would expect it to work this way. I don't change it either. I expect different guitars with different pickups to sound different, just like they do with my amps.