There is a new video by Kemper with double compressors.
what is the point of using 2 compressors?
Double Compressor
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cascading compressors with relatively mild settings is a good way to get quite a bit of compression with fewer artifacts
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that’s sounds really good
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Would be cool to try. I presume both comps are next to each other before the amp section?
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Would be cool to try. I presume both comps are next to each other before the amp section?
One before and one after; take a look at the video…
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Slide players often use series compressors to get the control of level and sustain they desire. Eg - check out the Origin Effects Slide Rig.
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As Jim Lill's YouTube video showed, tone comes from the cascading of drive and EQ stages. So Comp before Amp and then again after Amp makes perfect sense. I see a lot of Helix demo rigs use a comp after the amp as well for that polished studio tone.
I do this on a couple rigs but generally use a Treble Booster after the Amp to get a similar effect. YMMV.
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Lowell George with Little Feat was famous for this. Bonnie Raitt followed.
Try it on Bass as well.
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I use two compressors a lot especially on bass. I'll have my Keeley Compressor in front and then add a Kemper Comp to the rig.
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As Jim Lill's YouTube video showed, tone comes from the cascading of drive and EQ stages. So Comp before Amp and then again after Amp makes perfect sense.
I see a lot of Helix demo rigs use a comp after the amp as well for that polished studio tone.
the amp stage acts as another compressor, unless it is super clean - and there is even a dedicated Compression parameter in the amp section.
what some call 'that polished studio tone' is to others is a lifeless and overcompressed mess.
Michael Wagner for example pretty much never used additonal compression on distorted guitars -
what some call 'that polished studio tone' is to others is a lifeless and overcompressed mess.
Exactly. That is why I said YMMV
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what is the point of using 2 compressors?A common thing many mix engineers do in the studio.
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I just read an interview with Roger McGuinn who said he got his classic Ricky 12 tone with dual compressors.
Edited to Add: Here's what McGuinn said of how he got his sound: "“The engineer, Ray Gerhardt, would run compressors on everything to protect his precious equipment from loud rock and roll,” McGuinn said. “He compressed the heck out of my 12-string, and it sounded so great we decided to use two tube compressors (likely Teletronix LA-2As) in series and then go directly into the board. That’s how I got my ‘jingle-jangle’ tone. It’s really squashed down, but it jumps out from the radio. With compression, I found I could hold a note for three or four seconds and sound more like a wind instrument. Later, this led me to emulate John Coltrane’s saxophone on ‘Eight Miles High’. Without compression, I couldn’t have sustained the riff’s first note.”
There's been a lot of discussion on whether putting 2 compressors in series, or one at the front and one after the amp/cab, is better. I don't think McGuinn's view answers that since he was talking about recording and compression in series "and then going straight to the board." I cannot tell if he means without a mic'd amplifier (that seems unlikely), or in series after the mic'd amp. I've got a new Gretsch electric 12 string so I'm going to try true "series" compressors in front, and then try one in front and one after the amp/cab and see what's what.
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have you tried to get this sound with the settings described? Is it similar at your side?
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I believe they ran David Gilmour's Les Paul through multiple stages of compression for the solo to Another Brick in the Wall part II. It's a cool sound and really makes the guitar pop in the mix.
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I believe they ran David Gilmour's Les Paul through multiple stages of compression for the solo to Another Brick in the Wall part II. It's a cool sound and really makes the guitar pop in the mix.
If you ever listen to him live then you hear him compressed like a Jabba the Hut in a corset. Same goes for the Eagles on tour.
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Could someone explain how you put an effect (compressor) after the amp section? I've looked back through the manual, searched here, and the "x slot" is a mystery.
thanks.
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the X slot is the same as any other slot (except Delay and Rev which have a few additional features). Therefore, you can put any effect you want in any slot. However, the 4 Stomps will always be mono whereas the 4 effects (post stack) are stereo.
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Could someone explain how you put an effect (compressor) after the amp section? I've looked back through the manual, searched here, and the "x slot" is a mystery.
thanks.
all effects can go in all slots
