Posts by Kaschko

    May I pick your brains for a minute?


    How would you dial in this sound:


    Gary Clark Jr. Voodoo Chile


    I play a very similar guitar (Gibson Les Paul Special TV Yellow with P90s), so I should be able to dial it in quite closely.


    I know Gary Clark Jr. usually plays a Vibro King and a Princeton, but that doesn't mean he used that in this video, too.

    I'm not talking about the wah at the beginning but his fat rhythm tone (which I guess is a solo tone).

    Gary Clark Jr. uses Fuzz pedals as well, I guess Hendrix used his Fuzz Face on the original. I also have a Tone Bender in the home studio and of course, there is the Kemper Fuzz, too.


    Would you pick a Clean Fender profile and add a gainy fuzz? How clean would you set it?

    Or would you pick a pushed Marshall and add low gain fuzz just for the sound coloration?

    I feel there's more going on here, some sort of compression, maybe?

    Do you think the wah is activated during the entire song or turned off after the intro?


    What kind of reverb, delay can you hear? I'm still in the process of training my ears.


    I have the feeling I can get close but it's just not quite there. If I use the amount of gain he uses I lose clarity. Maybe he has a gainy setting but the volume on his guitar is rolled back?


    Hobby guitarist here, so I'm hoping to get some pro tips.


    Thanks!

    For me the Kemper always sounds great in headphones, but I was struggling with what to use for playback at reasonable home volume. I kept turning it up to enjoy it. The Kabinet has been a literal ear saver for me. I am totally enjoying my Kemper now without driving everyone in the house mad.

    Do you find the Kabinet works better than monitor speakers? Surprised to hear that since my experience is quite the opposite.

    1. In the output section. Press the output button and scroll through the menu. There are options to link and unlink volumes with the master volume. (Monitor volume, headphone volume etc.). Or: In rig manager there are boxes to check or uncheck linked volumes in the output section.


    2. Speaker imprints never go to the PA. They only work in your Kabinet. If you turn CAB OFF in the output section, the cab f the profile will still be sent to FOH but not to your Kabinet. Make sure to turn the cab off in the output section only, i.e. don‘t turn the cab off entirely with the button next to AMP and EQ.


    3. Use it like a real amp, pointing slightly away from you so you‘re not in the beam.

    In that case you have no option but to use full range mode with the Rig Cab section active instead of Imprints.

    That’s what I do. I only turn on imprints if I have the feeling they get me closer to matching the FOH sound.

    Are you asking why Full Range sounds different to imprints?

    No.


    I am asking why some profiles simply sound bad through the Kabinet while others don’t. Several people in this forum have suggested it might me the Kabinet itself and the speakers sound better in a different Kabinet, I might put 2 Kones into a Zilla 2x12 cab one day.


    Since we’re talking audio here, these things are hard to describe. You’d need to hear it. As I said, there’s a Bassman profile I’m playing that sounds great through the cab. FRFR or imprints, doesn’t matter. Sounds very close to “the story” that goes into FOH.

    But when I play M Britts Greenback 50w Plexi or Stu G’s Marshall Bluesbreaker, they just sound strange through the Kabinet, as if they were completely different profiles than what FOH gets. I understand all the physics, but I also hear what I hear.

    Everybody agrees that FOH sound is most important. But we all need a monitor to hear what we're playing. The monitor should be as close as possible to what the audience hears. I think everyone agrees on that as well. If you ride your guitar's volume knob a lot or have a bright single coil guitar that needs constant adjustments to the treble knob when you go from clean to overdrive, you must rely on a more or less consistent story between FOH and monitor. That's what I am talking about: not a 1:1 match, but two sound sources that tell the same narrative.


    Of course, FOH and monitor cannot sound exactly the same, but they can at least tell the same story. What I was saying, and I think what the OP was saying as well, is that the Kemper Kabinet sometimes (!!!) sounds like a completely different profile than what we hear through monitor speakers and studio headphones. In these cases, it fails as a monitor. For smaller rehearsals or gigs without PA, I'm not sure I'd use the Kemper + Kabinet over a normal amp. As soon as there's a PA, I think the Kemper can't be beat.


    In the old days, you had an amp on stage and made it sound as good as you could. Then you had to trust the sound guys to transport that sound to the audience. Even if you never knew if that worked out perfectly (you'd never hear it yourself), you at least heard an inspiring sound on stage that made you play better.

    If I now get an uninspiring sound on stage through the Kabinet and constantly have to remind myself "well, that's not what it really sounds like", I feel utterly confused. My volume and treble knob adjustments might be completely off, too. It's the opposite of plug and play.


    But don't forget, as I said in my previous post, this isn't the problem with all profiles and all imprints. Some profiles give me the exact same story through monitor speakers and Kabinet. But some others, in my opinion especially Greenbacks (never tried V30s...), sound off. My explanation has always been that the speakers used in the profile just sound different than the Greenbacks the imprints try to replicate. Still not sure why the FRFR mode sounds so different, too...

    Thinking about such a target group (people who only use few sounds and effects, pedalboard integration...), the Strymon Iridium already does pretty much everything for way less money.


    Soundwise it's in the same league and imo takes overdrive pedals even better than Kemper.


    If you really want a specific sound of a Kemper rig, you can make an IR of Kemper cab section and load that to the Iridium - many would be surprised how close that sounds.

    Never tried the Strymon but this sounds intriguing. I gotta say though I think no general case can be made about how the Kemper takes pedals. It’s the profiles that take the pedals and some do a much better job than others. Took me a while to find the best profiles for my fuzzes and so on, but they do exist.

    That works of course, albeit it doesn’t allow to work on specific frequencies.

    Problem with EQs is that they’ll affect your main signal too, not just the cab. Not really an option if you like what goes to FOH but are just not happy with your monitor.

    I cannot make the Kabinet sound good with Greenback profiles either. I play mainly Greenback-equipped Marshall Bluesbreakers and 50w Plexis and the sound through the Kabinet (both in FRFR mode and with Greenback imprints) just doesn't sound right. Boomy and shrill. The sound is very far away from what I hear through monitor speakers and headphones, I even thought my Kone might have been broken.

    But when I went to Fender 59 Bassman profiles (in many ways the same amp as the Bluesbreaker) that use a cab filled with Jensen P10Rs, it sounded really good through the cab. Both imprint and FRFR. I still don't get it. The Kabinet seems to be good for some profiles and useless for others. It's a shame since I prefer my Greenback profiles...

    The physics are indeed interesting but ultimately not that important to me. I’m more interested in what the Kemper behavior does musically. I see that many profile creators, including M Britt, raise the “amp volume” and I not do understand why. As I believe, the amp volume does not add saturation to the profile, it only gives more output. And if I’m not mistaken, that’s a function a real amp wouldn’t have since raising the output would always effect tone.

    I believe your assumption is incorrect.

    Hm, I'm not sure I can follow. A non-master volume amp's volume knob adds gain to the power amp. A master volume amp's master volume still adds gain to the power amp while the volume/gain adds gain to the preamp. The Kemper's "amp volume" only boosts volume but doesn't add gain to the profile. Where was I wrong to assume that a real amp doesn't have such an "amp volume" button while the Kemper doesn't have a normal amp's volume knob that adds both volume and power amp saturation at the same time?


    Thanks again for your input!

    Wheresthedug Brilliant, thank you!!


    I have to say I'm quite impressed that the Kemper knows what the headroom of a profile is so it can make the right decision to either have a pedal add volume or gain or both.


    Your explanation for my question 2 makes a lot of sense. Glad to finally know what the physical (albeit of course digital in this case) process is.


    You wrote "no" as reply to my question 4. Just to clarify, did you mean to say that my assumption was correct that Kemper's "amp volume" does not exist in a real amp?

    I second the wish for more effect slots (and I bet this has been requested several times).

    I think they could be “ghost slots” for always on effects. In my case it’s an fx loop that always takes away space in the front. Then a tremolo and two drives and I’m out of space although I’d love to add boosters, compressors and so on…

    I hope you guys can help me understand a few concepts as I don‘t seem to fully grasp the volume behavior of drives yet. I’m not sure if this is solely Kemper related or might apply to real amps and pedals as well.


    1. When I use a dirt effect like the green screamer or kemper drive, raising the effect’s volume doesn‘t seem to raise the actual output volume of the profile. Instead, the sound becomes more saturated. There is a gain boost but not a volume boost. Is that correct?


    2. All drives have at least a gain and volume setting. If my first assumption was correct, both do in fact add gain. How can we explain the difference? Does stomp box volume push the amp profile and add gain to the power amp section, whereas stomp box gain is more like adding preamp distortion?


    3. Raising “amp volume” does not effect the profile’s gain or add distortion. Unlike the last case, this one does effect the profile’s output volume. Correct?

    4. Is it correct to assume then that “amp volume” does not exist in a real amp because a real amp’s volume would always also add gain to the power amp?


    What Kemper function would be closest to a volume knob on a non master volume amp, meaning it adds output volume and poweramp saturation? Or is that not possible due to the snapshot nature of the Kemper?


    5. If I use an expression pedal or the morph function on the remote to raise the volume of a profile (for a solo, for example), I need to raise the amp or rig volume, correct? If I’d raise the drive’s volume I’d get more saturation but might not get above the mix loudness-wise.


    6. In that case, what’s the difference between raising the “amp volume” or just the entire output volume? Is it best to leave the output volume at max (or -12db) and use “amp volume” instead? (I guess instead of amp volume I could boost “rig volume” as well.)


    7. I have the feeling that drives sound best if I raise their volume by 2 or 3db or so. Is that a common phenomenon (I think I read that somewhere here) or is it due to a number of varying parameters like pickup output, profile saturation and, of course, taste?


    Thanks!