Posts by kpahuitsing

Quote from Arek77

Does it work with Xsonic Airstep?

When I plug my Airstep (using USB C to USB A cable) and power up the Player, it stops booting process with 14 white LEDs on and the last one blinking.

Is my Player defective?

to me it looks like the Airstep is creating a MIDI loop via USB then... or maybe something goes wrong with the USB enumeration.

On another thread a user reports that an Airstep lite firmware was needed to get it going :

Thread

Xsonix Airstep Multi with Player?

I wonder if it is going to work wirelessly… or or even wired.
Anybody tested it?

I am still waiting for my Player to arrive.

Arek77

Jan 3rd 2024

So it seems to me the Airstep has firmware issues.

Unfortunately it's not feasible for us to debug all possible external non-Kemper gear problems.

It would help if we would get a so called 'USB descriptor dump' from your Airstep.

Quote from KeysAndGuitars

kpahuitsing does Player route MIDI between the USB A and USB B ports?

Some here may ask why would I want that. Consider this scenario:

1. Plug a Softstep2 (or any other pedal-type MIDI controller) into USB A
2. Plug an iPad into USB B
3. Load Camelot Pro, BandHelper or forScore on the iPad
4. Use the iPad app to operate a set list, and select Rigs per song
5. Select next song or scene using Softstep2 footswitches

If Player routes MIDI, this could be workable.

Yes: the scenario you describe here will work already, and doesn't need routing.

all of the MIDI inputs (USB-A , USB-B) are merged, and can be used to control the player at the same time.

USB midi is supported on both USB connectors. The PROFILER models can act as USB device as well as USB host.

So: you can connect

- USB midi to a PC

- USB midi to a tablet or mobile phone

- USB midi to a foot controller

- USB midi to a converter to get DIN midi

these all works fine

hassle free integration? : USB midi is not different than DIN midi in this respect: as with all equipment: one has to take the time to master it. With some external control gear it is needed to configure correct settings, which may not always be easy or trivial.

USB midi when using an external controller has 2 big advantages:

1 = only one cable instead of three, (in, out, powersupply) and no problems with wrongly plugged IN or OUT

2 = power supply over the same cable, and need to externally power the controller

The PROFILER's USB midi host capabilities / connector are actually a very nice, and in much cases, better alternative to legacy DIN connections.

Quote from Arek77

Maybe WIDI is the way to go.

yes: if the Airstep is not working correctly as a USB-MIDI device this could be a solution.

Quote from Arek77

Airstep works OK with Stage, but not Player.

this would be very strange... Stage and Player share the same codebase for USBMIDI, and MIDI processing, and don't differ in this area.

Today we've verified here internally as a reference, just to be sure: switching rigs on the PLAYER through USB-MIDI with ProgramChange 1..50 works as expected for the USB-A port as well as the USB-B port.

If this doesn't work with the Airstep, the suspicion is with the configuration or operation of the Airstep :-\

it's not really hit or miss.... it works fine. As with regular MIDI, the external pedal/controller has to be configured properly (and has to be configurable properly) to start with.

Quote from Arek77

Maybe.

I have tried CC 50 - 54 and random numbers throughout.

Tried PC random numbers throughout.

Can someone share the correct numbers for selecting Rig1 in any bank?

just checked again: UM-ONE definitely works fine. Just send PC 1..50 to select a rig.

the Roland UM-ONE definitely works with the Player (and several other USB<-> MIDI converters too)

your tests show that the airstep is transmitting some sort of MID messages to the UM-ONE, but the Player doesn't react to those..

Most probably the messages aren't the ones the Player is expecting. (i.e.: wrong PC or CTL number, or maybe even a wrong message type at all?)

it does 't seem to work with Airstep... this doesn't mean it won't work with other products.

already a couple of users have reported success with other controllers using a direct USB-A connection.

the UM-ONE has been verified to be compatible with the Player.

Maybe the Airstep is causing a MIDI loop? You can try to connect only one direction:

Airstep(MIDI out) --> (MIDI In)UM-one <--> (USB)Player

(so leave UM-ONE's MIDI out unconnected)

IIRC: pressing *very* long resets all wireless settings (but here I'm not completely sure.. will have to check)

No: as said: the settings should be kept. If not: that would be a unknown bug (although this has been tested thoroughly during beta-test phase)

the Player should keep your (wifi) settings, even when the PC is disconnected, or the Player is restarted /switched off-on

Quote from rafaeldamage

This also applies to the USB MIDI messages being sent??

no: USB MIDI is not forwarded to any of the DIN connectors.

wireless button:

- short press = toggle BT on/off

- long press = toggle WiFi on/off

MIDI channel selection will be available in an upcoming update

Quote from atr_100

Good morning,

I am facing the same issue

Ampero Control was setup to send signal via usb

I tried it with this cables but none worked

https://www.thomann.de/de/lindy_usb_2.0_typ_a_b_1m.htm

Second test was done to send the midi signal through the Tonex midi out to the usb port

https://www.thomann.de/de/thomann_midi_usb_1x1.htm

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you say: 'none' worked... so the 2nd try was:

XXX -> MIDI -> USB -> PLAYER ?

and this didn't work? how/what did you test?

(because that is basically the same scenario Burkhard and others describes and tested successfully)

Quote from tsachou

WELL I got mine working using the disaster area dpc-5 gen 3 not perfect but it's getting there .

good to hear that this works (did you use USB only for this?)

knock88:

generally the procedure is:

- press WPS button on the Fritzbox

- press WPS button on the Stage

and the connection should be established (note: this can take a while... and if it doesn't work on the first try, maybe try again)

please contact support if it doesn't work out for you

if you have issues with the Stage as well as the Player, maybe the problem isn't with the Profilers in the end? (just a thought)