I've got a few out as well....
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Two years ago the Kemper was selling for 1449€ and the power amp upgrade wasn't announce at all. This came later and the upgrade was given a price tag around 600€.
Some month later the price of the KPA was increased to 1549 and then 1559€ (internet prices, the Kemper price was always around 50€ higher).The upgrade option then was obvious not possible, this mistake by a small company, that hasn't dealt before with EU directives etc, is of course a pity, but I wouldn't impute wrong advertising. They already sold more KPA that they could produce, where is the point to increase sales and risk bad reputation. There was no need to run in that trap if they would have know what they know know.
On the contrary, Kemper could have just said, sorry guys, we're not allowed to drop in the power amp afterwards, bad luck. But they do care for the early adapters and give you a 350€ rabatte (announced were 300€, but obvious someone at Kemper has checked used prices). The power amp option was announced as a 600€ upgrade. So in the end you get not only the power amp, but get a new Kemper (for those who have their KPA for 2 years, your warrenty is in some way refreshed) and even if you pay 50-100€ more by selling the KPA in a bad deal, you get what you want in the end, with a refreshed set of hardware.
I even bought the Powered version without waiting for the rebate (I guess Kemper will have a hugh backlog, and I didn't want to wait any longer) and sold my old version (mentioning that it's "upgradable") for 1400€ (this is a great deal for someone who want to buy e.g. a Kemper head for the road and a rack for his studio, saving for both units).
I paid for the upgrade 700€ which is ok for me considering the announced 600€ upgrade option and my refreshed warranty (even 3 years from my seller).What I tried to point out. I don't see the loss you're complaining about. You even get new hardware (maybe improved, at least my new version has a better painting), new warranty etc... you can even wait to sell your old unit until you get the powered version. Compared to an upgrade of you current Kemper, which would have been needed to be send to a service centre, you don't need to miss playing with a KPA for a single day.
If you don't like the Kemper deal, you could also go for a third party power amp upgrade for 350-500€, even giving you an option to power a stereo cap or wait for the matrix module. Nothing has changed for that option, and the Kemper Upgrade path, in fact, has no disadvantages compared to the earlier announced 600€ upgrade as I have summarized above.
Display MoreTwo years ago the Kemper was selling for 1449€ and the power amp upgrade wasn't announce at all. This came later and the upgrade was given a price tag around 600€.
Some month later the price of the KPA was increased to 1549 and then 1559€ (internet prices, the Kemper price was always around 50€ higher).The upgrade option then was obvious not possible, this mistake by a small company, that hasn't dealt before with EU directives etc, is of course a pity, but I wouldn't impute wrong advertising. They already sold more KPA that they could produce, where is the point to increase sales and risk bad reputation. There was no need to run in that trap if they would have know what they know know.
On the contrary, Kemper could have just said, sorry guys, we're not allowed to drop in the power amp afterwards, bad luck. But they do care for the early adapters and give you a 350€ rabatte (announced were 300€, but obvious someone at Kemper has checked used prices). The power amp option was announced as a 600€ upgrade. So in the end you get not only the power amp, but get a new Kemper (for those who have their KPA for 2 years, your warrenty is in some way refreshed) and even if you pay 50-100€ more by selling the KPA in a bad deal, you get what you want in the end, with a refreshed set of hardware.
I even bought the Powered version without waiting for the rebate (I guess Kemper will have a hugh backlog, and I didn't want to wait any longer) and sold my old version (mentioning that it's "upgradable") for 1400€ (this is a great deal for someone who want to buy e.g. a Kemper head for the road and a rack for his studio, saving for both units).
I paid for the upgrade 700€ which is ok for me considering the announced 600€ upgrade option and my refreshed warranty (even 3 years from my seller).What I tried to point out. I don't see the loss you're complaining about. You even get new hardware (maybe improved, at least my new version has a better painting), new warranty etc... you can even wait to sell your old unit until you get the powered version. Compared to an upgrade of you current Kemper, which would have been needed to be send to a service centre, you don't need to miss playing with a KPA for a single day.
If you don't like the Kemper deal, you could also go for a third party power amp upgrade for 350-500€, even giving you an option to power a stereo cap or wait for the matrix module. Nothing has changed for that option, and the Kemper Upgrade path, in fact, has no disadvantages compared to the earlier announced 600€ upgrade as I have summarized above.
There is a hole in the back where a power amp has always been supposed to go. Since I heard of the Kemper I have known this.
Most people can't afford to buy both.Also, look at the shipping coming from the Kemper Store to Canada, with duties, taxes, brokerage fees and shipping, the price is astronomical. With all that in, I'd be looking at $3200 AFTER the rebate. It'd be like buying 2 non-powered versions as the price is almost exactly double what I paid for my profiler. It is absolutely ludicrous that we are forced to buy from the Kemper store and not locally.
So sorry, the power amp is not worth $1600 and Kemper has basically screwed all the people who believed we could upgrade our unit with a proprietary Kemper branded power amp. -
I hate to say it, but it's unbelievably lame that I can't upgrade my Kemper myself or through a central service centre. I bought the KPA on the promise that I would be able to upgrade my CURRENT KPA, not having to sell my old one for a loss and buy a new one at a premium price through the online store.
I think this has been handled very poorly considering those of us who have had one for close to 2 or more years are basically getting the shaft from Kemper after placing trust in a company with an unfinished product. Seems like blatant false advertising to me....
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Another question while we're on the subject, do you HAVE to buy off the online store or can I get the discount through my dealer?
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These far too dark and flat sounding to me personally...Anyone else feel the same or am I the deaf one here?
Funny, that's exactly how I felt about the real amp....
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Just upgraded from 1.6, pitch effects AND space parameter, this is UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! The space parameter should not be overlooked, especially for headphone users, makes it bearable to use headphones now(old news, yes, but I'm a little late to the party)!
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Anybody else getting a loud high pitched hiss on some high gain patches. I'm using monitor out cabs off to either a matrix gt800fx or Mesa 2:100 and it happens on both. Tried all combinations of ground/lift switches, nothing is clipping, no common effects(happens with all effects off or on). Tried system reset, didn't help. Turned noise gate on/off, up/down, no difference. Firmware 1.6 but this happened on previous firmware as well. Tried different pickup combos. Different cables didn't help.
*edit* This happens on all outputs when using a power amp/cab. When using the master out and other outputs, this only happened when I disengaged the cabs.Any help is GREATLY appreciated!
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Tried to PM you Michael, your PM's aren't activated....
$450 shipped/paypalled
I've got tonnes of references as well! -
http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=132530
I got one
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Apparently yes..... Is in the press release
That really sucks, I don't want to have to send this stupid thing to Germany to get a poweramp installed. This will SEVERELY limit the amount of units they sell in North America, especially when there are other options(Matrix, Camplifier)
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I know for sure that the rack version will sound better than the black version which sound better than the white version.
Damnit, I've got the old shitty white and green one
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The first one is ever so slightly brighter.
That's what I found as well, not night and day, but definitely noticeable.
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I just made the comparison going back to 1.5.4. It definitely sounds different. I compared both using one of my fav profiles from the amp factory (JCM 800 drive). My 1st impression was right. The new firmware sounds different (I don't like it). It is actually quite noticeable that it sounds brighter. I will not enter into the debate of it sounding better of worse because it does not make any sense. The point is that the rigs should sound exactly the same no matter what firmware you use except for the aliasing being removed.
Can you post clips?
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Unless something's not mentioned in the release notes, I'll wait for the next one...
I hear ya, somewhat lacklustre....
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...is up....
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Right now I've got 2 power amps and 3 cabs. I want to try out FRFR to keep the character of the profiled cabinets involved(so many good greenback/scumback profiles) and I love jamming w/d/w. I would go all FRFR but don't want to make a ridiculous investment without trying it first as my main cab. -
I want to be able to get my dry tone in the middle to FRFR(cab on) and the wet sides to a poweramp to 2 cabs(cab off). We can go the other way now using monitor out with cabs off and the main outs cabs on/off with the soft button but we can't yet set it up the way I want.
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Cool, thanks. I guess it's over to the feature request forum
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Ok, I want to pick up an RCF powered monitor for my dry tone. I will use an external power amp to my wet sides which are 212 cabinets. How do I keep the middle sound with the cab on and have the wet sides have the cab off?
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Seriously, this is getting stupid. Every friggin profile I download is killer...it's driving me INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
