Or a vintage POD - same sounds I think.
POD needs speakers to play. The same with Kemper. Then you spend time to find the best speakers for you gear and start blaming you sound, start neverending research for perfect preset/profile. Then you land up on a forum seeking for help. Been there, done that. Just play, it sounds good.
Also...(im so sorry guys) Im still having the issue of when i turn on the kemper the profile i used before i turned the unit off sounds totaly different to what it did before i turned it off...i then have to skip said profile to the next one in my list and then back again to the one that sounded different and then it completely changes to what it sounded like before i turned it off. Also...(this JUST happened) i turned the cab all the way up to 10 and nothing happened...the lights went up to 10 but the sound didnt change. i then rolled it back one to 9 and the whole profile changed like i stepped on a pedal.
Some weird things happening.
It happened a few days ago too i actually got a recording of what happened
you can clearly hear the change. Thats me skipping the profile and back again and the difference is huge.External Content soundcloud.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.You can even see the change in image of this recording.
Get Yamaha THR and start playing music.
I'm sure someone has said it on here..Something is obviously wrong. I am an amp and tone snob (..at least I think I am lol..) Owned every Boogie, Bogner, Diezel,etc...as well as Axe FX and Line 6..Still have the Boogie MKIV half stack that my other guitar player uses and I go thru my K Powerhead through a V30 Cab. Absolutley gloriously crushing..plenty loud, full, rich and organic sounding (..using a rofile of my Boogie that I did myself..) It literally shocks us how good it sounds everytime we plug in to it. I got rid of my Axe Fx gear (..sounded KILLER, but the interface on the fly was challenging) as well as my Helix becasue it took a lot of EQ tweeking for recording direct....The Kemper i just plug in and go..NO tweeking, sounds and feels so inspiring... I'm sharing this because I was so skeptical of the Kemper, and it has outlasted all but one of my amps and modellers...If it doesn't sound and feel incredible (..again, depends on the profiles and some other factors, ) something is wrong. Good luck man...sorry for the bad experience.
But you are playing powered Kemper through real guitar cabinet?
Then try connecting it to studio monitors and share the experience.
So it could be because im playing it direct through my monitors? Ive never heard anyone offer that as a possibility.
Interesting. 🤔
I don't know what doesn't work for you, I gave you my experience. Now when I want to play, I power on THR and play. And don't care about profiles, EQ, cables, FRFR powered speakers, impulse responses, better pickups, premium guitars. I just play, because it's so easy and fun with THR
Hey guys!
Sad to say i will be selling my kemper and moving onto other things. Since day one (a few years) ive had nothing but an absolute nightmare of a time with my kemper everything i tried and purchased along the way and it was ALOT to the point of spending MORE than the actual kemper 3-4 times more to try an enjoy my unit just always ended up in dissapointment. It got to the point where i would just be seriously depressed and frustrated and didnt even want to write or record anything or even turn it on anymore.
I don't have such bad experience. But I never got the sound on powered monitors as I expected. I even tried very expensive Neumanns KH120A. It didn't help much. I ordered Kemper Kabinet (plus I bought suggested TC Electronic BAM power amp) - I returned both. To experience Kemper's glory I think you'd need to connect it to regular guitar cabinet. I'm not selling Kemper, maybe someday I can use it in different scenario than earlier.
But since 2 years I play daily Yamaha TRH30II. This this has cleans, that I even didn't get on Kemper. Plus many advantages over Kemper. I'm not saying Kemper is bad. Just THR30II is best for my application. Mainly because I play it as often as I can. And it tremendously improved my skills.
I wonder if this went anywhere or if it’s possible yet. I know it’s an old thread, but I came across this scenario after owning my kemper stage for just a week searching to see if it’s possible
I'm not sure if this is implemented, but you can always support this feature request.
The smaller you go with the woofer size and the enclosure size, the less bass response you get. While this might not be a huge issue when you play electric guitar only ... you'll likely notice it quite a bit when you e.g. play over a backing track with bass and kick drum/floor toms.
Regarding "guitar only", I don#t know what genre you typically play. But don't expect such small speakers to "chug" properly (this plam muted ooomp in high gain).
I play Yamaha THR30II with two 3.5" speakers and maybe they don't deliver punch of 12" speaker, but I play over backing tracks ant it sounds damn good. I created a request for Kemper Desktop Amp, but they moved it to other gear. Well. I play other gear then. I don't play Kemper 
Display MoreTBH because you made such a direct comparison, I can see why the thread was moved but I could see through your comments with my amazing powers of deduction :).
So lets start again:
You would like a Kemper desktop Amp solution. With the flex and capabilities of other desktop amps, say the Yamaha THR but with the superior Kemper sound and innovation. Perhaps include smaller kones etc.
Great idea... +1
Thank you V8guitar
I made this comparison, because I tried other desktop solutions and newest THR was the best among them. It was so good, that idea popped in my mid to make it even better, but with the heart from Recklinghausen, Germany. Congratulations to your deduction skills
I would like to experience a Kemper desktop Amp solution - portable, with wireless streaming solutions, small stereo Kones would be a great idea. And catchy looks - we tend to play more if we see something that looks good
because this is more a discussion of the THR's features than anything else.
It's not really a Feature Request, it's more like 'make a product like this one' so I decided it fits better in this subforum
for extended stereo sounds, the PROFILER already has a number of features:
some from the very beginning, like the mono-compatible and criminally under-used Stereo Widener, but also many newer additions like the Phase WIdener and the Delay Widener, Also there is the Double Tracker, plenty of tools to create a really wide stereo image, not to mention that some of our effects can be turned up to 200% of stereo width.
DonPetersen I just put a list of features from THR, that in my opinion would be great to have in Kemper Desktop Amp.
I didn't say anywhere "make a product like this one", I can only command myself
I know and said it, Kemper sounds better than THR, but Kemper doesn't have built-in speakers and bluetooth streaming capabilities, is not that portable as THR (any desktop amp).
Hereby, I request Kemper Desktop Amp will it ever be considered, will it be dark green or white green (like my Profiler form early 2012) this is beyond me but people requested floor Kemper and got Stage. There's nothing wrong in dreaming
Kind Regards
Display Moreskoczy I get where you are coming from.
The THR is not the same as a KPA. Different price point, different features etc. so comparing is not really valid. The THR is a great practice amp, Im thinking of getting one myself for a bit of fun, so the idea of Kemper making a similar portable self contained unit is a great idea.
Personally my KPA is only for live work. Its set up and packed away purely for gigs. I decided to do some home recording recently and it was a pain for me to plug it all in, only because of how it is racked up and linked to a wireless - so to reiterate, this is only because I've rigged everything up focussed on live work. For practicing at home I tend to use a plug in( Amplitube) for convenience.
What is great about the KPA is it will cover every base anyway but for what skoczy called out, a unit closer to the THR could have a market...
Indeed V8guitar - my post was not about to say one is better than another. My post was to show the convenience of playing desktop amp. I've used VST plugins, but honestly this is the least convenient way of playing guitar. Kemper is great for what it is, and even THR has USB recording abilities, I use Kemper to record anything.
But to play and practice (and we need to practice whole life) I tend to use desktop amp.
I wish it was Kemper Desktop Amp.
- I wish it looked eye catchy with their green color.
- I wish they would put 2x 4" small Kones.
- I wish it had bluetooth for audio streaming and had rechargable battery.
- I wish off course it'd use the same technology as older brothers.
I wish, so I requested.
I do a lot of recording and practise at home and will take a good (!) pair of studio monitors or even headphones over a cab anytime.
Adding a cab to the studio monitor scenario is fun, but doesn't really serve much purpose.
I've been playing a lot of amps, combos, half and full stacks and a combination thereof over the years and I don't miss the hassle, the ridiculous volume, unreliability, cost and weight at all.
And Kemper Desktop Amp could have Kemper's soul and some built in speakers (studio monitors) I've played recently 40W 6Lt tube amp combo, and it screamed on Stratocaster. Indeed it was loud and heavy, but it had this 5% (ooomph, 3D, amp in the room) which I couldn't get even on Neumann KH120 monitors.
Anyway DonPetersen, my initial post was to REQUEST Kemper Desktop Amp, not sure why you moved it to other gear. I didn't want to convince anyone, that Kemper Profiler is bad in any way. I just saw and experienced, what good desktop amp gives you. If it doesn't happen I'm fine, but I felt like I want to create post after long time of break, because having Kemper Desktop Amp could be ultimate experience
It's personal taste. Since I have my kemper I only play with headphones or iem. I can't hear anymore the sound of a cab and I don't like playing loud.
If a want to travel in my house with a quick start device, I play acoustic
Sure, it's all personal thing 🙂
The total sensory immersion you get with headphones is hard to beat. I think the best listening pleasure anyone can get is good headphones for immersion and then cranked cabs and sub for the inner body feel. That's like musical heaven!
ooh! I'm getting excited!
I don't like closed situation, and I like playing for people around me 🙂
I've never heard a THR sound "godly" and I think that's a misrepresentation. That term suggests it's a good as the amp is trying to mimic.
THR10X Brown II setting sounds stellar for a desktop amp.
I don't get why you think the Yamaha is easier, or why you'd accept that level of compromise in your sound. Does the Yamaha PC app have the same level of control?
It starts in no time, it has app for Android, it has speakers, it's portable with built-in battery. It's pretty loud and sounds good for these 4" speakers. Yamaha PC app, does the same as Android app. Controls presets, allows to change amps, cabs, edit effects, etc. Yes, it doesn't sound as good as Kemper, but I played it daily since I bought it. I don't say Kemper is bad in any way. I just request hereby for Kemper Desktop Amp.
after playing a lot of gigs since may this year I have to disagree - nothing sounds better than a good band with good IEMs and a top notch sound guy
plus, I can move around and go anywhere on stage while the sound stays exactly the same...
I can hear everything in glorious stereo
DonPetersen, sure! For live situation IEMs are great solution. But still my post was for us, the bedroom players 🙂
Display MoreSo, I'll tell you my THR/Kemper story...
The THR10X was my main home practice amp. The Brown II setting was godly. Great 3D sounds, tuner, batteries, portable, etc. Only flaw? It sounded hideous through headphones.
So I go and try the new THR30ii in July 2021 at the local Mom & Pop music store. It sounded good, and there was some definite improvement in some features. Bought it. Then within 2 days, I A/B'ed it with the 10X tones & preferred the 10X. Go back to the store, returned it, feeling defeated...
Then a couple of days later, I go to the big box music store uptown & what is sitting there, used? A Toaster! It was returned after 2 weeks, and it was $800 off the new price. Put some money down on it & then a payment plan for the rest.
Wow.
The Kemper has literally changed my life, my playing & reinvigorated my love for the guitar. Opinions are subjective & I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade - but the Kemper *wipes the floor* with the THR amps. Better/more realistic tones, editing flexability, more outputs, better 'real amp' feel, multiple noise gates, pedals, EQ's & a headphone out that is absolutely god-like.
The tones this amp has under it's hood is incredible! Just my 2 cents & glad you love the Yamaha so much, man!
Thanks for describing your story FearAbsolute. I also had a chance to compare THR30II to THR10X and Brown II setting was indeed godly. But THR30II received firmware update some time later, with "Open" speaker tuning which made me keep it (without that it was inferior soundwise to older brother).
I agree that headphones output on Kemper is stellar. Didn't care about THR's because I don't use headphones.
I have Kemper since 10 years and have no interest in trying new gear. It's GREAT for what it is. But if I'd see Kemper Desk Amp, I'd shell out my cash.
I've been doing this for ~10 years
Headphones output on Kemper is stellar, bit still I think nothing beats sound in the room, even if it misses amp in the room tthin 😉
My Kemper has 85watt speakers on the desk and 112watt speakers that stand on side of my desk. You could travel easily with the Kemper with a descent pair of headphones and never bother anyone.
If you really want good tone to travel with just get an original Rockman!
Your Kemper doesn't have any additional speakers, or you have some custom made version 😉 mine is only a preamp, very good one. I'm really sorry, but playing on headphones should be forbidden by law. It's inconvenient and fake. Music needs room. I don't have a problem to bother anyone, in fact people like me play 😉
What Rockman you have in mind?
My Kemper IS a desktop amp already. It sits on my desktop.
IMO, I think people get hooked on the THR for it's "stereo" speakers. Even my Tablet sounds great with Dolby stereo speakers compared to my cell phone speaker. THR is a Toy Home Receiver.
But Kemper has no speakers. Surely Kemper's sound is better compared to THR. But you cannot take Kemper, and play while travelling. You cannot quickly power it on, and play to backing track which wirelessly streams to it. I got hooked to THR, because I played it more for 18 months, than Kemper for 9 years. It does NOT mean in any way, that Kemper is bad, just THR's simplicity and functionality, made me play it over and over. Kemper stays with me. I just wonder, what desktop amp would that be... Kemper DesKemper...
